What do numbers on counters mean?

[No idea]

I swear I have looked about them in the Manual and Strategy guide and there is not a word about what they mean. In fact, the only reference to them I have found is in the strategy guide, telling us about using counters, because of the important information counters provide.

OK, but what´s that information?

PS. I think is something about number of men and of brigades per division, but could anybody tell me?

Thank you

 

[flecha224]

This is something I would like to know too

 

[Mediator]

If you mean the 2-3, etc. it's the relative and unmodified attack and defense strength of the unit.

 

[No idea]

I understand unmodified (not having into account weather, terrain…), but what do you refer when you say relative?

 

[KGrob]

I think those are rounded to the nearest integer rather than truncated (someone with more knowledge might clear this up).

Thus, a true value of 2.7 would display as "3" and a true value of 4.2 would display as "4" as far as I know.

 

[themousemaster]

They say relative because those numbers should not actually be used for hard calculation.

0 is the "worst" and 9 is the "best", but trying to calculate things like "does 2 6's beat an 8?" isn't capable with "relative" values, so don't bother ;p

 

[unmerged(56084)]

10-10

I haven't seen a strength level greater than 9-9....is it possible to hit double digits? Thank you

 

[Leckan]

I haven't seen a strength level greater than 9-9....is it possible to hit double digits? Thank you

Don't think so.

 

[True Grit]

The relative offensive and defensive values... is this expressed as a fraction maybe? I have a lot of 3-5 divisions. Does this mean that they are 3/5ths as capable on the offence VS defence? Would a 5-3 division mean the inverse of that: it being 3/5ths as capable on defence VS offence?

Sorry for dragging this out, but for some reason I don't exactly get it. o

 

[themousemaster]

They are not fractions. They are just relative numbers.

3 - 5 just means that it rates a 3 for attack, and a 5 for defense. not 3/5 as good on the defense as attack.

Again, just use those numbers as a guide. If you see a long border guarded by 6-6 units, and 1 province has a 2-4 in it instead, then make your push at the 2-4's spot. That's about as far as the usefulness of those numbers go.

 

[womble]

The relative offensive and defensive values... is this expressed as a fraction maybe? I have a lot of 3-5 divisions. Does this mean that they are 3/5ths as capable on the offence VS defence? Would a 5-3 division mean the inverse of that: it being 3/5ths as capable on defence VS offence?

Sorry for dragging this out, but for some reason I don't exactly get it. o

It's not clear what the numbers are relative to. One would hope that it'd be something universal like "An infantry Division of three brigades with all its technology and doctrines at the current tech.."

 

[Curious]

"Relative" must mean relative to all units in general. I'm sure that those numbers are just meant to give a player a "quick and dirty" feel for the general strength of the units he is dealing with (his own and the enemy's).

CB

 

[Beerbeard]

They are all I use for determining how to attack and defend, and they have never let me down. They also change when you upgrade your units, which makes me feel good about myself.

B

 

[Forster]

Doesn't the wiki site have an explanation about what the numbers represent and how they are used and modified?

 

[Rankorian]

My guess is that this goes back to the board games type of reasoning.

A 4 attack is better than a....2. That is all that means. A 4 defense is better than a 2 defense.

It gives me an idea of which units to use for attack, and which for defense.

Not much more.

But, in the old board games, like Stalingrad by AH, the units were...not even Divisions....but some arbitrary grouping.

But it worked. And I think it works here.

 

[womble]

But, in the old board games, like Stalingrad by AH, the units were...not even Divisions....but some arbitrary grouping.

Many old board games did state (and stick to) their level of organisation. Corps per counter was quite a common one.