((I don't know, but the elections should close tonight. What time zone is TH, anyway?))
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((Somewhere on the west coast of the US, I think. My guess is California, but i honestly have no idea.))
Yeah, I live on the US pacific coast. Pacific standard time, or PST, as I often mention.
And sorry thekinguter, but you'll have to wait to the next electoral cycle to stop agitating. Them's the rules.
The 1866 Presidential Election
The 1866 Presidential Election may have been a return to democracy for Chile, but it was not much of a contest for Antonio de Santa Rosa. The newly created FNT party secured a strong showing in the polls but ultimately paled in comparison to De Santa Rosa's own numbers, ultimately losing by 58 electoral votes to 106 and by a margin of more than half a million in the popular vote. De Santa Rosa, the popular incumbent president, campaigned on a platform of continued strength and prosperity for Chile in the name of the 3rd Republic, while voters raised eyebrows at Carlos Juan Carnal's policies of secular government and state capitalism; the former was seen by the conservatives as a violation of a typically moralistic Chile's religious piety and the latter by the liberals as a suspicious expansion of government power so soon after the overthrow of an Emperor. Nevertheless, Carnal enjoyed significant support in the working-class glass-industry infused suburbs of Santiago if not in many other places - this support, however, was very far from enough to win him the Presidency.
Another curiosity of the election was an attempted boycott by various members of the radical liberal factions - these Radicales (radicals), as they called themselves, began to organize into an entirely different organization from De Santa Rosa's Republicanos, saying that their agendas now greatly differed from his. The Radicales were dealt a staggering blow, though, by the enactment of universal enfranchisement by the Congreso just before the election - last-minute attempts to call off the boycott and dismiss their campaigns against the government ended in partial failure, and turnout among Radicales was low.
Similarly, the Tradicionales were forced to consider their own standing in Chilean politics following denouncement by many prominent conservative figures and their own inability to field a single candidate in the 1866 Chilean Presidential elections, though they still had a presence at regional levels. Both the Tradicionales and the Radicales called conventions just following the election. In one case, the question was the disbandment of an old party - in the other, it was the creation of a new one.
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Riccardo, I need your final policies and appointments before I can post a new update.
People who want the Radicales to form, state your support for the Radicales. For this vote and this vote ONLY, agitators may give their support. If the Radicales receive four or more statements of support, they will come into being next election.
People who want the Tradicionales to stay around, state your support for the Tradicionales. For this vote and this vote ONLY, agitators may give their support. If the Tradicionales do not receive four or more statements of support, they will disband before the next election.
I'll give two days for this, or until 6 PM PST on the 11th.
I more than happily support the formation of el Partido Radicale. We must stand strong and stand united against the vice of government, against those who would see good men die needlessly while scum is allowed to live without retribution!
"While myself was defeated in this presidential election, the FNT has grown, and expanded due to our aggressive campaigning. I promise, this will not be the last time I run for office, my comrades."
-Senator Carlos Carnal
-Senator Carlos Carnal
If that is the case, Senor Vallenare, and you yourself were guilty of no such crimes against the Republic, I will work immediately for your release.
I want to thank all those who supported me in this campaign! With your help, Chile has strong, free leadership for the next five years! However, your work is not yet done; we must remain constantly vigilant and alert to the actions of our government. I would suggest to the industrialists of this great nation to begin working on another factory, so that Chilean industry can continue to grow. To the workers, the great labourers of our glorious Republic, continue to strive for this grandeur we have achieved!
Now is the Golden Age of the Republic! Let us create a system that will last!
I plan to stay the course, and work as best I can to fulfill the promises (or goals) I made during this campaign when possible.
((Basically, I plan to largely keep everything the same, from ministry posts, generalships, policies, and every other such.
Oh, should we vote on that 'Chief of Staff' position? Since I support a more limited (though not helpless) government, and more division of power is, in my opinion, a good thing.))
I want to thank all those who supported me in this campaign! With your help, Chile has strong, free leadership for the next five years! However, your work is not yet done; we must remain constantly vigilant and alert to the actions of our government. I would suggest to the industrialists of this great nation to begin working on another factory, so that Chilean industry can continue to grow. To the workers, the great labourers of our glorious Republic, continue to strive for this grandeur we have achieved!
Now is the Golden Age of the Republic! Let us create a system that will last!
I plan to stay the course, and work as best I can to fulfill the promises (or goals) I made during this campaign when possible.
((Basically, I plan to largely keep everything the same, from ministry posts, generalships, policies, and every other such.
Oh, should we vote on that 'Chief of Staff' position? Since I support a more limited (though not helpless) government, and more division of power is, in my opinion, a good thing.))
What was that again? As the President, you have the power to appoint the four core ministers (Interior, State, Treasury, War) and one for a purpose of your choosing. Romano, for example, had a Minister of Church and Culture as his final minister.
Support formation of El Partido Radical. I hope this is the first step in a long walk towards a free, powerful and sustainable chilean economy.
We need an opposition party who does not hate democratic institutions. We need a real democracy, a real debate between ideas, and not just have the pro-democracy and anti-democracy factions. That's why I believe the Partido Radical should be formed.
We need an opposition party who does not hate democratic institutions. We need a real democracy, a real debate between ideas, and not just have the pro-democracy and anti-democracy factions. That's why I believe the Partido Radical should be formed.
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((The Chief of Staff, as I understood it, would largely handle military appointments, to limit the power of the president to launch coups. I think that the Chief's position should be weakened as well (perhaps the Chief and President come to agreement on military appointments), and he should be elected by the Congreso, if only to serve as a counterpoint to the president; a check on his power.))
((Are there any actual radicals besides me and kinguter? It'd be kind of annoying if we're the only ones 
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((Well, considering the Radicales are almost completely and totally opposed to anything and everything that would endanger the freedom of the individual...
That, and Germán just doesn't like socialists))
That, and Germán just doesn't like socialists
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You would need to put that before the Congreso in bill form; I'll have everyone vote on it next cycle. I'm not sure how much support to expect though.
I urge any dissident to join the partido Radical, to help shape the future of this nation.
All those who are not satisfied with the dictatorial rule of Santa Rosa, join the Partido Radical, and we will let this buffoon know that Chile will not stand for this disguised autocracy! We will not re-live Rome, whom thought itself a republic yet truly was an empire lorded over by an emperor with a clandestine scheme to keep his people blind to his despotic rule!
If this is Rome, Senor German, why am I trying to limit my own power? Why am I actively working to ensure the military is, by and large, depoliticized?
((If anyone wants to propose legislation on the Chief of Staff position formally, or laws to work for a more balanced (and more stable) military, feel free to tell me, or propose it right now!))
((If anyone wants to propose legislation on the Chief of Staff position formally, or laws to work for a more balanced (and more stable) military, feel free to tell me, or propose it right now!))
((That's very similar to what I was going to propose as one of the funtions of a monarch.))
