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Apologies if this has been answered before, but do you have to adopt Imperial Administration in order to become an Empire?

I feel like that would be a nice compromise between the people who like ahistorical Empires and the people who are offended by anything ahistorical being in their game. This way you have to actually work hard to found an Empire other than the ERE or the HRE (and work hard to found the HRE as well if you're in a pre HRE timeline) as it takes a bundle of tech and stuff.

I don't know.... I like ahistorical Empires, but I always found the essential "level-up" mechanics to become an Emperor were a little too easy.

Oh, and I'm sure that anyone with a strong opinion one way or the other will hate this compromise, which is the mark of a good compromise.
 
As far as I understand it, it is the other way around, you have to be an empire to adopt "imperial Administration"
 
Tabris01 said:
As far as I understand it, it is the other way around, you have to be an empire to adopt "imperial Administration"
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In EU3, you could become an Empire once you decided to "Adopt Imperial Administration". (After you hit 30 provinces and a few other requirements; I can't really recall.) But you weren't an Empire until you adopted Imperial Administration. That's why I asked.
 
Government types in EU and title tiers in CK are different beasts. There are already requirements to form empires, and it's possible to require certain laws (centralization, crown authority, whatever) before titles can be formed. Imperial administration shouldn't be one of those, as it's more a perk of empire status than a prerequisite.
 
Federalist girl said:
Government types in EU and title tiers in CK are different beasts. There are already requirements to form empires, and it's possible to require certain laws (centralization, crown authority, whatever) before titles can be formed. Imperial administration shouldn't be one of those, as it's more a perk of empire status than a prerequisite.
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You're right, though TBH having (almost) every monarch referred to as king in vanilla EU still doesn't feel right to me. Sure the tier system in CK is rather simplified and some realms in certain periods might benefit from more tiers, but over all it is modelled descent enough (considering timespan and regional differences).
Furthermore tier still mattered in the EU period, hence the importance of Prussia for Brandenburg and Sardinia (initially Sicily) for Savoy, but I digress.

Anyway, Imperial Admistration can be a perk for an Empire, when they meet certain criteria, some Empires might never achieve those either.
 
I'm only suggesting, not demanding. If I'm off-base, shoot me down. If I'm not off-base, back me up. It WOULD make it harder to form an ahistorical empire....
 
Thure said:
But this would mean all empires would be centralised... That would be strange. Especially for the HRE. ;) Imperial administration don't make any sense as requequest for the HRE.
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That depends on the point in time you're talking about. For instance an HRE, which prevailed during the Investiture Controversy, might have developed differently. Still that would only be a starting point for alternate history.

Furthermore the requirements for the ERE might be lower, than those for Western European Feudal realms, but I wouldn't make it impossible.
 
Ruwaard said:
That depends on the point in time you're talking about. For instance an HRE, which prevailed during the Investiture Controversy, might have developed differently. Still that would only be a starting point for alternate history.

Furthermore the requirements for the ERE might be lower, than those for Western European Feudal realms, but I wouldn't make it impossible.
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As I said... it would be strange as requierement to form an empire. If every empire would requiere to have imperial administration (which means viceroys and free duchy revocation)... This didn't sound like a good requierement.
 
Thure said:
As I said... it would be strange as requierement to form an empire. If every empire would requiere to have imperial administration (which means viceroys and free duchy revocation)... This didn't sound like a good requierement.
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No, I think we're on the same page.:) It shouldn't be a requirement, but a optional perk provided an empire meets certain criteria.
 
So, would the Mongols be using this viceroy system? Did they appoint governors (or whatever the correct local term would be) for the various realms they held in vassalage?
 
Depends on whether Mongols are tribal or not; tribal emperors cannot use viceroys.

Ruwaard said:
No, I think we're on the same page.:) It shouldn't be a requirement, but a optional perk provided an empire meets certain criteria.
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I think the devs have said other empires will have the ability to tech up to IA.
 
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