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I've recently come across a situation where I had an illegitimate bastard of my own dynasty whom I have been grooming to be my heir to the Holy Roman Empire. He was a genius, diligent and ambitious. After some careful wars I gave him the title of the Kingdom of Lotharingia. But I was surprised that he was still disqualified from nomination as hier to the Holy Roman Empire (which was an elective monarchy).

Granted, I understand that an illegitimate bastard is disqualified from succession. But shouldn't the fact that he is a landed lord (A king, no less!) in the Holy Roman empire make him a potential candidate for succession in an elective monarchy? I was very surprised to find that despite the fact that he held a title for a de jure kingdom among the Holy Roman Empire that he still was not a potential candidate among the elective monarchy. I feel that him holding a title as a de jure king in my empire should trump the fact that he is an illegitimate bastard.
 
Pretty sure his status as illegitimate means no inheritance what-so-ever, landed or not?

Just because that's the way it's coded doesn't mean that makes sense.

If he's a landed King in my empire, that should mean something, bastard or not. I could take any random lowborn courtier and give him the title of King of Lotharignia and that title alone would make him viable for nomination as the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire.

If a title can trump lowborn status, why doesn't it trump illegitimate status?
 
Well, when he has a child, he will no longer be of your dynasty so you won't ever be playing him except by reselecting anyway. In a way, this bug has saved you from an ugly situation.
 
Just because that's the way it's coded doesn't mean that makes sense.

If he's a landed King in my empire, that should mean something, bastard or not. I could take any random lowborn courtier and give him the title of King of Lotharignia and that title alone would make him viable for nomination as the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire.

If a title can trump lowborn status, why doesn't it trump illegitimate status?

I agree.
 
Just matri-marry him to some cousin of yours so his kids would still be of your dynasty. If he's married it might work.
 
"Lowborn" are supposed to represent minor noble houses, not complete nobodies and commoners. While an illegitimate bastard isn't allowed to inherit under most feudal law.
 
Just because that's the way it's coded doesn't mean that makes sense.

If he's a landed King in my empire, that should mean something, bastard or not. I could take any random lowborn courtier and give him the title of King of Lotharignia and that title alone would make him viable for nomination as the Kaiser of the Holy Roman Empire.

If a title can trump lowborn status, why doesn't it trump illegitimate status?
Ah I misinterpretated what you meant, thought you asked why it didn't change his status in game, instead of you asking why it was as such, my apologies :)