Bug or extremely overpowered feature - Shivas "Withdrawn in contemplation"

Systemlord · Jul 3, 2014

Bug or extremely overpowered feature Ganeshas "Withdrawn in contemplation"

Greetings,

I am talking about what happens after this event: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?784408-Withdrawn-in-contemplation
The +stability event didn't happen only once, but 16 (!!!) times from the starting time until 1480 (in 1 playthrough). I know that is good to celebrate Ganesha, but he seems like the absolute god for everything. Right now I can declare war on everyone and everywhere, since I don't have to care about -stab anymore.
Everyone else experienced this?

ragingrondo12 · Jul 3, 2014

Systemlord said:
Greetings,

I am talking about what happens after this event: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?784408-Withdrawn-in-contemplation
The +stability event didn't happen only once, but 16 (!!!) times from the starting time until 1480 (in 1 playthrough). I know that is good to celebrate Shiva, but he seems like the absolute god for everything. Right now I can declare war on everyone and everywhere, since I don't have to care about -stab anymore.
Everyone else experienced this?

Well the MTTH on the event is 120, so it should trigger ever 10 years or so. Technically it has a 1/120 chance of triggering every month.

Code:

# Sadyojāta (Shiva the Creator)
country_event = {
	id = hindu_events.2
	title = "hindu_events.2.t"
	desc = "hindu_events.2.d"
	picture = RELIGION_eventPicture

	trigger = {
		has_personal_deity = shiva
		has_regency = no
		NOT = { has_ruler_modifier = jnana }
		NOT = { has_ruler_modifier = hindu_withdrawn_contemplation }
		advisor = artist
	}

	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 120
	}

Mauer · Jul 3, 2014

Systemlord said:
Greetings,

I am talking about what happens after this event: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?784408-Withdrawn-in-contemplation
The +stability event didn't happen only once, but 16 (!!!) times from the starting time until 1480 (in 1 playthrough). I know that is good to celebrate Shiva, but he seems like the absolute god for everything. Right now I can declare war on everyone and everywhere, since I don't have to care about -stab anymore.
Everyone else experienced this?

First of all, I love your username. Secondly it seems you got lucky with the frequency of the event.

MadDjinn · Jul 3, 2014

ragingrondo12 said:
Well the MTTH on the event is 120, so it should trigger ever 10 years or so. Technically it has a 1/120 chance of triggering every month.

Code:

# Sadyojāta (Shiva the Creator) country_event = { id = hindu_events.2 title = "hindu_events.2.t" desc = "hindu_events.2.d" picture = RELIGION_eventPicture trigger = { has_personal_deity = shiva has_regency = no NOT = { has_ruler_modifier = jnana } NOT = { has_ruler_modifier = hindu_withdrawn_contemplation } advisor = artist } mean_time_to_happen = { months = 120 }

hmm wait -- the trigger for the event needs you to have an artist?

Are those different for each god?

ragingrondo12 · Jul 3, 2014

MadDjinn said:
hmm wait -- the trigger for the event needs you to have an artist?

Are those different for each god?

There's a giant ton of events in the Hindu file in the "Events" folder.
I didn't go through all of them, but enough to see that they were essentially the same.

Systemlord · Jul 3, 2014

Mauer said:
First of all, I love your username. Secondly it seems you got lucky with the frequency of the event.

Thank you. Systemjesus was already taken ;-)

But the event happened also sometimes 2 times in the same month. It was so frequent, I can even now count on it (always take -stab hits rather than the other negative effect in a random event). I don't know how to calculate this, but it seems it is easier to win in the lottery if the event happens in about 10 years... maybe a comma is at the wrong place or something like that. Usually I am far behind in power as a third world nation, but thanks to the stability in am even in the top 20.
I looked into the event list, there are other events with shiva. I was always at war, but the other event at wartime never happened (with the inquisitor)

Systemlord · Jul 3, 2014

WAIT!!! I think I am talking about this event:

# Ganesha Chaturthi - preparations
country_event = {
id = hindu_events.38
title = "hindu_events.38.t"
desc = "hindu_events.38.d"
picture = RELIGION_eventPicture

trigger = {
has_ruler_modifier = hindu_ganesha
has_ruler_modifier = jnana
is_month = 7
NOT = { is_month = 9 }
}

mean_time_to_happen = {
days = 80
}

option = {
name = "hindu_events.38.a"
add_years_of_income = -0.3
country_event = {
id = hindu_events.39
days = 30
tooltip = "hindu_events.38.a.tt"
}
}

option = {
name = "hindu_events.38.b"
add_prestige = -5
}
}

# Ganesh Chaturthi
country_event = {
id = hindu_events.39
title = "hindu_events.39.t"
desc = "hindu_events.39.d"
picture = RELIGION_eventPicture

is_triggered_only = yes

option = {
name = "hindu_events.39.a"
add_stability = 1
}
}

MTTH is 80 (!) Days (!!!!)
I know hindu ruler needed some love if you compare them to the muslim countries, but this is really powerful!

Rufo · Jul 3, 2014

Shiva is not supposed to trigger stability events. Ganesha and Surya have the stability-boosting festivals after you reach enlightenment with them, however, there is no equivalent for Shiva.

These festivals do trigger too frequently considering the benefits (I made a mistake setting the MTTH), and this will been fixed in the next patch.

Aries666 · Jul 3, 2014

Haha look what you did, the nerf bat is in full swing. Should have kept quiet

Systemlord · Jul 3, 2014

oops, I meant ganesha

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good to hear that! It's nice to hear a reply from a dev!

Systemlord · Jul 3, 2014

Aries666 said:
Haha look what you did, the nerf bat is in full swing. Should have kept quiet

;_;
Lets make some achievements before they fix it! Maybe with Ryukyu? haha

Rufo · Jul 3, 2014

It was reported by QA post-launch and already fixed, so don't worry, this thread is innocent. :happy:

Me_ · Jul 3, 2014

Just out of curiosity: what was it changed to?

Rufo · Jul 3, 2014

18 months (about 6-7 times the original MTTH). Still occurs every few years, not as frequently as one would assume from that value, but no longer with the absurd frequency of the current version.

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