Jewish courtier invasion.

shulima

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• May 29, 2014

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Anyone have an idea on how to get rid of piles of Jewish courtiers that show up uninvited in my court? Can't marry them out because absolutely noone wants them, they're unconvertable, and they collectively hate my kingly ass for being a foreigner and an infidel. Well excuse me for being a Catholic in my own court.

Short of mass assassinations and a huge waste of money, anyone have a solution before I get assassinated myself with support of permanently disgruntled Sephardis?

(Oh yes, and I play Ironman so any console solutions are out of the question.)

 

ChrisFox

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• May 29, 2014

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There is a decision to 'expel the Jewry' if I am not mistaken. Although that sounds like a horribly solution. >.<

 

Druplesnubb

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• May 29, 2014

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I don't see the problem, it all goes according to the Protocols

 

TankRush

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• May 29, 2014

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Next time you get spare country or duchy with lots of holdings, marry as many of them to each other as you can, and then hand out the land to them all. Conversion is slow, but not impossible.

Hand out the baronies/cities/temples (well, maybe not temples) one at a time until you've pretty much gotten rid of all the courtiers, who'll end up taking their wives and kids with them.

Might work in the short term.

 

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• May 29, 2014

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Either expel them or place your Court Chaplin in your court to convert them, cause I believe they can still flip that way.

 

shulima

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• May 29, 2014

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Rationalsanity said:

Either expel them or place your Court Chaplin in your court to convert them, cause I believe they can still flip that way.

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I'd rather not expel for RP reasons, but I didn't think of the court chaplain. That could work, thanks!

 

Jokolytic

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• May 29, 2014

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Expel them. They are extremely hard to if not impossible to convert. Plus free money! What makes it any worse than killing of banishing all the Christians in your realm as a pagan?

 

shulima

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• May 29, 2014

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Jokolytic said:

Expel them. They are extremely hard to if not impossible to convert. Plus free money! What makes it any worse than killing of banishing all the Christians in your realm as a pagan?

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Pagans don't pretend.

The hint with Court Chaplain was great, with 22 Learning my Chaplain converted all of them in relatively short order, allowing me to marry the useless off.

 

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• May 29, 2014

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Use kill plot to eradicate them slowly. Everyone will gladly join your plot as they are infidels and foreigners.

 

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• May 29, 2014

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shulima said:

Anyone have an idea on how to get rid of piles of Jewish courtiers that show up uninvited in my court? Can't marry them out because absolutely noone wants them, they're unconvertable, and they collectively hate my kingly ass for being a foreigner and an infidel. Well excuse me for being a Catholic in my own court.

Short of mass assassinations and a huge waste of money, anyone have a solution before I get assassinated myself with support of permanently disgruntled Sephardis?

(Oh yes, and I play Ironman so any console solutions are out of the question.)

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Irrc, you can still marry them matriliniarly to your débutantes, that should help with the useful ones. You can also land them once they have kids...

All of this assumes you have spare cash, of course. The advantage of landing him with a Christian wife is he'll still be available as a Councilor and not subject to your Chaplin, so you still get the Jewish bonus.

 

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• May 29, 2014

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Druplesnubb said:

I don't see the problem, it all goes according to the Protocols

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whosthebestcop

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• May 30, 2014

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Was there a Jewish county that was taken over by a different religion? That would have caused them to flee to another court.

 

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• May 30, 2014

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Shut it down, the goyim knows.

 

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• May 30, 2014

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give them all your temples......they pay taxes to you not the pope.

 

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... Convert to Judaism? Because that's what I'm trying to do as the Ummayids!

 

Azhcristokos

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• May 30, 2014

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Every Jewish courtier I get hates me bitterly for being a gentile who doesn't speak Yiddish. Is this how Jewish advisers were to every Muslim sultan they served in real history?

 

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• May 30, 2014

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Azhcristokos said:

Every Jewish courtier I get hates me bitterly for being a gentile who doesn't speak Yiddish. Is this how Jewish advisers were to every Muslim sultan they served in real history?

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Perhaps Jewish advisers who show up in courts should generate with the appropriate Sympathy trait? So they only have issues with the frothing at the mouth zealots, not every individual of note around them.

 

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• May 30, 2014

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Your Jewish advisors seem to help you to the ends of the Earth, but they still hate your guts.

"It's just business.", except the other way around.

 

hagagaga

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• May 30, 2014

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I managed to marry them out. Matrilineal.