Sandbox vs Determinism

Oddb@ll

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• Jan 23, 2014

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Any indication what direction they will be taking in this aspect? A more open game or historical plausability?

 

BrunoDerKaiser

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Hopefully something along the lines of Darkest Hour. It would be very annoying if it was a dumb sandbox. I'm sure a lot of people don't want Germany conquering the Balkans before 1939 or the UK annexing Norway and Sweden in 1937.

 

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This is my opinion also. A ww2 game without ww2.... This is what I am most anxious to hear about actually

 

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• Jan 23, 2014

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I'd like to see more politics and a more dynamic shifting geopolitical landscape, especially with early starts. So yeah "historical plausibility" hopefully. I think of HoI more as a "WW2 era" game, not a "WW2" game.

 

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• Jan 23, 2014

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Compared to HoI 3, I'd want to see more freedom of will (of player, AI or both) and fewer predetermined dates and wargoals. Ideally, it should be something like EU with a casus belli system, warscores and events, just tweaked so that something like WW2 is almost inevitable to happen. But you should never know (unless you choose "historical" option) when and how exactly it will start: the Allies may start the war over Czechoslovakia, Finland and USSR may be neutral or be on "wrong" sides, USA may join the war earlier, etc. Diplomacy should have more options and be less deterministic.

 

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I hope for a dynamic, plausible game. No determinism. If you want to make sure that WWII starts at the same time and in the same conditions as RL WWII, then play the 1939 scenario.

 

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• Jan 23, 2014

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Oddb@ll said:

Any indication what direction they will be taking in this aspect? A more open game or historical plausability?

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I'd like to see options at the setup of a game that allowed you to change how deterministic the game was. I like playing a historic game, but after a few play throughs, it would be nice to mix it up.

 

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Sandbox. Sandbox all the way. I don't really even care about the plausibility. I don't play games for a simulation of things everybody knows.

 

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Oddb@ll

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• Jan 23, 2014

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JDP said:

I'd like to see options at the setup of a game that allowed you to change how deterministic the game was. I like playing a historic game, but after a few play throughs, it would be nice to mix it up.

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This sounds nice. Im not saying it has to be the same outcome every single time, like Italy/Japan/Germany/Finland are in the axis versus GB/USA/France and Comintern in a war that starts sep 1 1939. That's just lame. But otoh I would get frustrated if the world was a "Balkan Clusterfuck" every time a start a -36 scenario.

 

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JDP said:

I'd like to see options at the setup of a game that allowed you to change how deterministic the game was. I like playing a historic game, but after a few play throughs, it would be nice to mix it up.

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This would be the best possible solution I think.

 

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• Jan 23, 2014

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I think it won't be as railroaded as HoI3 was but I think if you play a not significant neutral country, ww2 should happen almost always. after all it is what this series about...

 

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• Jan 23, 2014

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Virtanen said:

Sandbox. Sandbox all the way. I don't really even care about the plausibility. I don't play games for a simulation of things everybody knows.

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I personlay dislike it, if it's to easy to make the Switzerland an ally of the Axis...

 

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I think there was a talk about something along the lines with "If you want the ww2; start at september '39" or something like that.. so i
(might be a Reddit AMA i'm not sure)
guess it'll cover both ends of the fanbase.

 

Last edited: Jan 23, 2014

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I would like something similar to what we got in HOI3, which I guess would be on the deterministic side with some sandbox. I would like to see WW2 unfold as it did historically for the most part, with some randomness mixed in so playthroughs are not always the same.

 

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More sandbox. Determenism in the path of failure.

 

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BrunoDerKaiser said:

Hopefully something along the lines of Darkest Hour. It would be very annoying if it was a dumb sandbox. I'm sure a lot of people don't want Germany conquering the Balkans before 1939 or the UK annexing Norway and Sweden in 1937.

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The british did have plans for invading Norway I think, but I don't know much about it.

 

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Balor said:

More sandbox. Determenism in the path of failure.

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Hopefully more historical plausible oriented. Good to hear though.

 

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Carmilla said:

The british did have plans for invading Norway I think, but I don't know much about it.

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Yes, but to prevent Germans from getting Swedish iron. They would never invade Norway just because Hitler got to the power.

 

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You make me make happy faces.

 

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Balor said:

More sandbox. Determenism in the path of failure.

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YES MORE SAND! Mmmmmm sand all over!

 

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