Creating Titles (aka. carving out your own Duchy)

NICK_GIFF · Feb 14, 2012

Does anyone know how to create titles or if it's even possible if you're a Count (of Évreux), under a Duke (of Normandy), under a king (of England)?

Reason I ask is because after 25 years or so of hoarding money I got a bit bored so hired a couple of mercenary companies and invaded some of the smaller Islamic emirates in Spain which has somehow ended up with me controlling most of the coastal provinces in the South! I'd rather like to turn it into a Duchy as it's quite a few provinces and when my ruler dies the inheritance will be split between my sons, and so the next person I play with will just be Count of Évreux again.

Something tells me though that I'll need to shrug off being a vassal of the Duke of Normandy (bizarrely the son of the start-of-game Count of Eu, who was made Duke of Normandy after William became King of England). Is there a way to do this other than trying to become Duke of Normandy myself?

Garak · Feb 14, 2012

If you aquire the necessary provinces in Spain, and no one else has the title, you can create a ducal level title, yes. You'd have to check the provinces to see which duchies they belong to and what you need to be eligible, though. On the province screen, it'll have a section where it tells you the de jure kingdom and duchy the province is considered part of. As far as I know, you can create a duchy without having to attack your current liege or formally delcare independence. You'd just move up in the chain of command, so to speak, and have the king as your direct liege. At least, that's how it worked in CK1, and I assume it's similar here.

Darknesskilla · Feb 15, 2012

Garak said:
If you aquire the necessary provinces in Spain, and no one else has the title, you can create a ducal level title, yes. You'd have to check the provinces to see which duchies they belong to and what you need to be eligible, though. On the province screen, it'll have a section where it tells you the de jure kingdom and duchy the province is considered part of. As far as I know, you can create a duchy without having to attack your current liege or formally delcare independence. You'd just move up in the chain of command, so to speak, and have the king as your direct liege. At least, that's how it worked in CK1, and I assume it's similar here.

You can't create a title of a higher rank than your liege IIRC

NICK_GIFF · Feb 15, 2012

Managed to solve the issue by declaring war on my liege, the Duke of Normandy (who also happens to be my nephew

), claiming independence as the reason. As soon as I did this I was able to create the Duchy of Seville, which then instantly ended the war between myself and my nephew as 'inconclusive'.

Only problem now is that one of my younger sons is going to inherit the County of Evreux whereas I'd like to keep the ancestral lands tied to the Duchy. Anyone know if it's possible to change who inherits what? (Besides murder)

unmerged(405910) · Feb 15, 2012

Try to change your laws to 'seniority' or 'primogeniture'. Everything will be in the hands of one person after your death.

NICK_GIFF · Feb 15, 2012

Furga said:
Try to change your laws to 'seniority' or 'primogeniture'. Everything will be in the hands of one person after your death.

Cheers, sorted it out now.

unmerged(287474) · Feb 15, 2012

I think there is a bug with Pomerania and Mecklemburg duchies. I have half of de jure Pomerania and no option to make the title. Though I've found that making the Mecklemburg duchy envelopes all of Pomerania. Very odd. As poland, in order to have any hope of forming the de jure kingdom of poland, you basically have to wait for somebody to attack pomerania then blitzkrieg them with mercs. You're in a race with HRE and denmark, but with the enemy's allies right on your doorstep.

My only hope of getting Stettin from HRE is to claim the Mecklemburg duchy and then one day assassinate the ruler of stettin when he has no heirs.

Search

Creating Titles (aka. carving out your own Duchy)

NICK_GIFF

Private

Garak

Field Marshal

Darknesskilla

Emperor of Canada

NICK_GIFF

Private

unmerged(405910)

Captain

NICK_GIFF

Private

unmerged(287474)

Captain