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In the early morning, while the sky was pink and the sun was rising and the people of Valparaiso were buried in deep sleep, the bishop of Valparaiso gathered with a special envoy from the Vatican. Such meeting was held in the belltower, overlooking the city, and between wispering and silent movements. It was a secret meeting, after all. They stared at the sunrise, wondering about the new day that was rising. Just like the sun, new ideas were rising in Chile. The people were thirsty for revolution. The papal envoy spoke his concerns with the bishop.

"You know that South America looks up to Chile. You are the shining beacon of progress in this continent. Your fashions and ideas are copied all around the south cone. If Chile were to become red.. "

The envoy looked at the pink sky. It no longer looked pink, but rather looked if it suddenly changed it's colours to a pale red. In the background lay the foundations of an abandoned factory that did not survive the civil war, Zepeda & Family co. The monstrous gigant lay unfinished, as the owners were offed during the civil war, and all other relatives had fled to underground hideouts in the Andes. Just like the dead factory, the liberalism of XIXth century Chile had not outlived it's creators. The bishop was silent, so the envoy continued his speech.

"Red dawn. Christian values and moral boundaries die to people who claim they have killed God. The church must guide the people towards salvation. We cannot allow atheism to destroy our society. That is why we need a powerful archbishop in Chile. We are still mourning the loss of Cardinal Roberto Matta, the previous archbishop. As you know there is a vacant in that position. We want you to have that position."

For the first time in the hour long chat the bishop answered

"What do you want me to do?"

There was a slight change of expression in the envoy's face. He seemed satisfied, knowing his words had reached the young bishop. The envoy continued, hoping to get a "yes" from the bishop.

"You are a different kind of man that Roberto Matta ever was. You are into politics, despite the Separation of State and Church Act proposed by the Zepeda family during the radical years. You don't fear being left alone in the dark, being the only sane man in an insane country. We need you to save the country from communism."

The bishop laughed. He shaked hands with the envoy. The sun had risen, and the people of Valparaiso had woken up from their sleep, and started making loud noises as the city suddenly felt alive again. The abandoned factory looked like a monument to all that was lost during the last civil war, but nobody noticed it. Liberalism had been the driving force behind Chile during the last century, but it had died and nobody seemed to mind it anymore. Just like the Roman Colosseum or the Egyptian Pyramids, liberalism was no more than another era in history. Both men understood it was time for change. Then finally, the bishop gave the response the envoy needed.


"Yes, I will be your archbishop."
 
Women's Suffrage: Yes, all people regardless of gender or race should have the same rights.
Now my comrades I would like to propose
The Proggresive Tax Act of 88'
This nation's capitalist system has allowed some to grow fat and wealthy and other's to squander in poverty. This is in party due to our regressive tax system. I propose that the upper class be taxed 50% higher than the middle class who in turn should be taxed 25% more than the lower class. This will allow more lower class families to make end's meet and ensure a more fair and just society.
General Mario Juarez, Army of Northern Chile

((I can't wait for this to pass and for all our pops to promote to Capitalists, good luck "working" for the working man then.))
 
((That would be really cool! :D And I doubt anyone would be opposed to it or would be unwilling to help you. From what I can say, Badajoz was average (really good until his coup attempt), Romano was solid (the economy stagnated though), Roseno was a tyrant (and was overall a weak leader, but a strong manipulator), I had the best presidency (moderate liberalism, great power status, military strength, peace with Brazil, forerunner to OTLA, etc.), Zepeda was in office for too short a time (ended with a weak coup, though OTLA was his brainchild, and the Common Market expanded rapidly, as did the economy), Cortez was another more mediocre leader (though he was largely hemmed in by the liberals, and his coup was poorly organized; on the plus side, a still strong economy), Andonie had a strong showing initially, but his weakness in terms of military strength, combined with a rather un-supportive base and a heavy-handed nature with rivals, made him a antagonizing figure (still that economy booms though, and the military had largely recovered by the end of his term), and Gogolow hasn't been in office long enough to really do much either way.))
((Do I detect a bia? ;), I was thinking about rating them less on how much good or bad they did for Chile, because that is purely subjective, but on how influential they were on the whole, and don't worry De Santa Rosa will be up there.))
 
((Do I detect a bia? ;), I was thinking about rating them less on how much good or bad they did for Chile, because that is purely subjective, but on how influential they were on the whole, and don't worry De Santa Rosa will be up there.))

Sounds like a great idea, if you want the warts on all on andonie (the stuff people dont know) PM me and I can give you excerpts from a memoir if you want, :) The down low on SAnta Rosa (as he has admitted), the President that will do anything to make him loved, hee hee
 
The shattering of glass was a pierce into the blackness of night, a knife to the heart of the calm that fell upon the land when the sun had drowned underneath the hills and plains to the inescapable pull of rotation.

Sebastian woke with a start, sitting straight up in bed, looking about his room attempting to find the source of the noise that had disturbed his rest. He heard nothing, saw nothing moving, but the movement of his wife caught him off guard. He ushered for her to stay quiet; "I shall be gone only for a moment."

He snuck out of bed and walked over to his desk, in the corner of the bedroom. He quickly got dressed in a standard shirt and pants, quietly donning his own boots. He then walked down the hallway and made the quiet, painfully slow trip downstairs.

Below were footsteps. They moved in a hurried fashion, a fashion obviously implying attempted secrecy. He stopped, holding his breath; he should not have worn his boots. Whoever was downstairs, they would know of his presence very soon. And then, he heard it: a pair of footsteps, two people downstairs moving with haste. Whoever they were, he realized, they did not belong.

He approached the bottom of the steps and peered around the corner into the kitchen. What he saw were two men, clad in dark vests and pants and donning revolvers at hand. Bandoliers of ammunition were strung along their torsos; they were ready for action. Sebastian knew not why they were here, in his house for; why they were armed; nor what their intentions were. If Sebastian was to take them on, he would be fighting fist-to-gun, his revolver safely stashed away in his study.

As the two turned their back, rummaging through the pantry for food [to even this, Sebastian was astonished], he took his chance and lunged around the corner. Neither heard a sound until he was upon them; he tackled one, who yelped with surprised. They wrestled on the floor and both began the horrible struggle of survival. His companion immediately started yelling at his friend, telling him to beat him, while he himself was pointing a revolver in Sebastian's direction, screaming words that were blurred by the adrenaline rush all in the room were undergoing.

Sebastian managed to get on top of the man he was wrestling; he was banging the man's revolver hand against the floor in an attempt to dislodge the weapon. However, before he could do so, there was a sound he dared not hear in his house, a sound reserved for his moments on the battlefield: a gunshot. This came with it the splintering of the floor barely an inch from Sebastian's arm. In response, Sebastian threw a curse at the man behind him and smashed the man's hand against the ground with renewed vigor.

There was again another gunshot: this one even closer, as he could almost feel it, landing on the floor between his legs. By now the enemy's revolver had been tossed on the floor and Sebastian was fighting the invader hand-to-hand. He heard more screaming - most likely his wife and son alerted by the gunshots, yells, and fighting - and knew it was only a matter of time until this whole ordeal was over. He threw a punch at the man's stomach; it was a hit and he heard the man groan. He reached back again and punched again, his enemy becoming weaker with each throw of his fist. However, there was yet another gunshot. This time, however, it did not miss.

The pain for Sebastian was unbearable to the extent that he let out a scream that he did not even believe he was capable of, a scream so loud and high-pitched that it seemed it would crack open Earth itself and bring Hell to Earth. He fell back off his enemy, falling to the ground as pain shot up his spine. The wound was going to be fatal, he immediately assumed, if it was not treated very soon.

He saw in front of him the man who fired the shot: a tall, slender, young man in his late twenties, short stubble for facial hair. His revolver was still pointed at Sebastian, already a dying man, and was threatening to pull the trigger again. His accomplice stood up, panting and grabbing his side.

The gunman smiled and whispered, "This is where you get off, General."

Sebastian held his breath. It was over.

Or so he thought.

A gunshot - what he first believed to be the one bringing about his own death - rang the air of his peaceful house yet again, followed by the injured attacker grabbing at his heart and falling to the ground, motionless. The gunman turned to find a young boy - no older than sixteen or seventeen - holding out Sebastian's own revolver, smoke oozing from the barrel.

The gunman, stunned, turned back to Sebastian and said, in a voice he himself would never forget, "Perhaps next time. Adios, General."

And with this, the man suddenly dashed across the room, Sebastian's son too surprised to act. He tried to trace him as he ran, fired a shot that missed cleanly and shattered a window by the dinner table; shaking, he re-cocked it and fired again, another miss. The man kicked down the door at the back of the kitchen and was gone into the blackness before his son could fire again.

It was twenty minutes later when help came, several neighbors down the street having come to hear the cries and gunshots from the house. Before Sebastian could be hauled into a carriage to be carried to the local hospital, he was approached by his son, holding a small piece of parchment he claimed he had found on the dead man's overcoat. It read: "This is what happens to enemies of the revolution".
 
((Maybe just a bit of bias :). But, I have to agree with Zagoroth, Badajoz was, until he launched his coup, a superb president (so if we disregard that, which I doubt we will, then he would rank very highly).))

As for these bills proposed, I would oppose every single one of them. People have a right to oppose this government, and while taking action is illegal, I do not believe saying you hate this government is a strong enough offence to warrant any imprisonment (not to mention it sounds somewhat on the extremely authoritarian side). The other laws are bad for obvious reasons.
 
Apparently I just unclogged the legislative backlog of the century, so here's what we've got for proposals:

((Remember that you can vote on your own bills))

Agrarian Land Redistribution Act
1.) An estate will be distributed equally to each family working within the estate, except for the hacienderos.
2.) The manor(s) of every estate will be confiscated, dismantle and have the scraps and parts sold.
3.) The farmers will be subsidise until the next harvest.

Internal Security and Militia Act


1. All armed militias in Chile are declared illegal. No para-military or militia units are permitted to organize and form in Chile unless authorized and controlled by the Chilean government.

2. It shall be illegal to call for, plot or in any way endorse the overthrow of the Republic.

3. A Department of Internal Security ('DIS") shall be established under the Interior Ministry.

4. The DIS shall be responsible for enforcing Sections 1 and 2 of this act. The Interior Ministry shall have the authority to assign to the DIS addition lawful responsibilities at its discretion.

The Progressive Tax Act of 88'
This nation's capitalist system has allowed some to grow fat and wealthy and other's [sic] to squander in poverty. This is in party [sic] due to our regressive tax system. I propose that the upper class be taxed 50% higher than the middle class who in turn should be taxed 25% more than the lower class. This will allow more lower class families to make end's [sic] meet and ensure a more fair and just society.

Woman's Suffrage
Yes: 9
No: 1

Agrarian Land Redistribution Act
Yes:
No:

Internal Security and Militia Act
Yes:
No:

The Progressive Tax Act of 88'
Yes:
No:

Voting closes when AHD comes out.
 
ALRA: No
ISMA: No
PTA88: No
 
Woman's Suffrage
Yes
Agrarian Land Redistribution Act
No
Internal Security and Militia Act
No
The Progressive Tax Act of 88'
No
 
(( Can disenfranchised people vote on bills? And can Chile colonize? ))
 
Sounds like a great idea, if you want the warts on all on andonie (the stuff people dont know) PM me and I can give you excerpts from a memoir if you want, :) The down low on SAnta Rosa (as he has admitted), the President that will do anything to make him loved, hee hee
((That'd be great I was hoping to have at least one quote for president so if you could provide me with that it would be ideal, oh and TH should I vote again on the new bills or due my old votes count.))
 
(( I believe with most of the Communista paramilitary leaders in government, we may require another member of the party with revolutionary experience to lead the Red Guards. ))
((Hello))

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Women's Suffrage: Yes
ALRA: No
ISMA: No
PTA88: Abstain
 
The Internal Security and Militia Act is necessary to enable the government to establish control over the Amarillos, Red Guards and Imperialist remnants that roam the country doing as they wish. It will also bring under control those who rile up the people with their rhetoric calling for violent revolution. Our nation has seen enough bloodshed, it is time to bring peace and stability to Chile.


Agrarian Land Redistribution Act- No
Internal Security and Militia Act- Yes
The Progressive Tax Act of 88- No
 
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((I would support the tax act if the poor were taxed at zero percent, though...))
 
((I'm not sure about the spanish translation. If anyone knows what it would be feel free to post))

D.S.I.

Departamento de Seguridad Interna



I understand that this new agency will be like a counter-insurgency/anti-terrorism unit to defend the republic? If so, then you count with the church's blessings, but for internal reasons we cannot support you officially right now.

- Archbishop Jaime Fernandez of Chile
 
General Hidalgo,

I urge you to reconsider your stance on the Internal Security and Militia Act. After you recent experience being attacked, I know you see the need for the government to take action against those who use violence to advance their political agendas.

Respectfully,

Pedro Rivera
 
General Hidalgo,

I urge you to reconsider your stance on the Internal Security and Militia Act. After you recent experience being attacked, I know you see the need for the government to take action against those who use violence to advance their political agendas.

Respectfully,

Pedro Rivera

I voted against the act as the Socialists and Communists themselves are being pure hypocrites; they are voting to outlaw militias and paramilitary forces, yet they claim their Red Guard (itself a paramilitary force) saved the Republic in many coups.

However, I will consider changing my position on the matter.

- Wounded Gen. Sebastian Hidalgo