Can released vassals take your own tech group? (HttT)

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MilesGloriosus

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• Apr 13, 2011

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Hi,

Playing in HttT, I've been trying to build a successful colonial empire without falling too far behind in tech, and the best way seems to me to be by using vassals to control overseas territory. If I use (for example) the Cherokee for this, however, then their slow tech rate makes this practically useless in the later game. If I annex them, can I release them in a way that gives them Latin tech group and government?

 

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I'm fairly sure thats a yes. It makes no sense that they wouldn't be. Also, unless your the Byzantines non westernized your in the western tech group most likely.

 

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That's what I thought, but when I released Mutapa as England they had a 'Duchy' government, but still african tech. Do the provinces need to core, or some other requirement?

 

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I had this to, in a normady game, I controlled hte modern USA and wanted to make Huron, Canada so i release them...

Still Native American tech

 

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I don't believe countries take on your tech when you release them, no. A bit silly if you ask me, would be cool if you could "raise" countries like this.

 

KPJ

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No, they don't. Anyone know where their tech numbers come from?

 

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• Apr 13, 2011

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KPJ said:

No, they don't. Anyone know where their tech numbers come from?

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I think its pre-set in their country file. Maybe you could try annexing them, closing the game, edit the file, restart the game and release them.
If it works, congrats. However you may want to change them back when you start a new game.

EDIT: Wait. I checked the country files and it seems that it only defines what graphics they use.... Maybe you should make an event that is exclusive for them that makes them latin tech?

 

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Can released vassals take your own tech group? (HttT)

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No.

Countries get your government, but keep their tech group. Only westernisation raises it, and they have to do it by themselfs.

 

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• Apr 14, 2011

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Noctus said:

No.

Countries get your government, but keep their tech group. Only westernisation raises it, and they have to do it by themselfs.

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Pretty sure this is correct. If they do happen to have your tech group already then they will get your tech levels though.
Their tech group (and level) is preserved from before they were annexed or is the one listed in their history file if they have never existed in the current game.

 

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• Apr 14, 2011

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Creating the Kingdom of Jerusalem at any point starts it with all techs at level 3 with the Eastern tech group and military.

 

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From my experience, nations outiside my tech group (Western in almost all cases) have predefined tech levels and their historical tech group when released. When I releases European vassals, they have the same tech levels I have when I released them.

 

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• Apr 14, 2011

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knul said:

From my experience, nations outiside my tech group (Western in almost all cases) have predefined tech levels and their historical tech group when released. When I releases European vassals, they have the same tech levels I have when I released them.

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Although this is relevant to whether the nation existed before or not.
I think it was that a nation keeps the tech it had when it was annexed ( so TO annexing brandenburg who had land and naval tech 7 and 50 years later releasing them again gives them back 7 land and naval ) but those who are first time to exist ( france -> champagne ) get yours.
Not sure if it remained the same, but thats the way it was back in IN.