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Inheriting and PUing nations should be made more difficult IMO.
Yeah, but it's a really great help if you're trying to pull off a WC, since the infamy penalties are so harsh.
 
Speaking of Denmark and personal unions...


My standing army is only 40k men split up in two 20k stacks, I have the religious turmoil modifier, a whopping -5 tolerance to heretics and thanks to the inheritances I got the overextension modifier.

I hope the rebels have the common decency to use lube :(

Not even God can help you now!

Also the lube is flaming gasoline. Have fun!
 
Steppe wolf,newest vsermina vlast version
Welcome to communist japan comrade!(Temporaly)Friend of one and true socialist China and futuire conqueror of Greatest Korea!Liberator of Indonesia,Malasia AND Australia!
I for one welcome our japanese overlords :p
I will contineue this until i takeover china,indonesia,australia and california :)
Amazingly france declared war to israel and israel ceded a region in the palestine to Greece :p
 
Steppe wolf,newest vsermina vlast version
Welcome to communist japan comrade!(Temporaly)Friend of one and true socialist China and futuire conqueror of Greatest Korea!Liberator of Indonesia,Malasia AND Australia!
I for one welcome our japanese overlords :p
I will contineue this until i takeover china,indonesia,australia and california :)
Amazingly france declared war to israel and israel ceded a region in the palestine to Greece :p
There's still terra incognita in 2010?
 
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Not quite optimal I suppose. I have to admit that expanding early game into HRE was kind of dicey in infamy limit. But I think it will do nicely for now. In the world, significantly Burgundy wiped out france, colonized, and now they are fighting hordes in siberia and all over the place. Castile colonized and took some french territories as well. Britain colonized into north america, and there's some swedish canada too. Brit and Castile are locked in a deadly struggle.

There's the ultimate war of German destiny still to be fought against Trollhemia and maybe austria and burgundy (certainly burgundy later!). basically I got land34, just got line infantry, and at 36 there's arme blanhce cav. Bohemia only got Gustavian inf, land29. Trollhemia isn't strongly supported by allies other than some vassals maybe. So I was thinking about Dowing them tommorow and playing that war out.

But on the other hand I'd like to form prussia, and If I only had the diplo-king, I could get the reforms and maybe even militia act. my diplo-king srsly died just as I went to the decisions ledger! Derpy von Derpsdorf will succeed him so no luck there. So biding my time or Brandenburger blitzkrieg? to finish the Emperor, HRE?

How should I go about disbanding HRE though?
 
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Burgundian Golden Horde...
 
Steppe wolf,newest vsermina vlast version
Welcome to communist japan comrade!(Temporaly)Friend of one and true socialist China and futuire conqueror of Greatest Korea!Liberator of Indonesia,Malasia AND Australia!
I for one welcome our japanese overlords :p
I will contineue this until i takeover china,indonesia,australia and california :)
Amazingly france declared war to israel and israel ceded a region in the palestine to Greece :p
There's still terra incognita in 2010?
He should turn Terra Incognita off for everyone with the Console.
 
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Bavaria in 1568. Allies/vassals include: Luneburg, Sweden, Brunswick, Brandenburg, Mainz, Frankfurt, Alsace, Salzburg, Holstein, Ulm and Munster. I just got done with a massive war with Austria and Poland that ended with Sweden vassalizing Denmark and Austria's army being completely annihilated by me.
 
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Bavaria in 1568. Allies/vassals include: Luneburg, Sweden, Brunswick, Brandenburg, Mainz, Frankfurt, Alsace, Salzburg, Holstein, Ulm and Munster. I just got done with a massive war with Austria and Poland that ended with Sweden vassalizing Denmark and Austria's army being completely annihilated by me.
Diplomatic mapmode?
 
There'd be so much green I'd forget what I actually owned and what was a vassal XD


how'd you expand the Bavarian homelands so fast? Peaceful luck based inheriting or just stomping through those guys? I take it you are emperor too? I just suck at playing the HRE countries I guess. England spain and such are way easier :D
 
Its easy to blob fast in HRE as a medium/large power its all about missions with cores and PUs all over the place.
I had an austia game that i quit in 1440 because i had inherited bohemia bavaria and a couple of other HRE nations, conquored a chunk of northern italy. This all with cores. Then tore apart france making me THE superpower in the world in 40 years. I thought that boring so i quit it in 1444
 
how'd you expand the Bavarian homelands so fast? Peaceful luck based inheriting or just stomping through those guys? I take it you are emperor too? I just suck at playing the HRE countries I guess. England spain and such are way easier :D
I got the two Palatinate missions early on and use them to my advantage, then force-PU'd Hesse and in the middle of that got a lucky PU on Saxony. Inherited both (one diplo the other luck) and the rest has been vassalization and careful annexing. And I wish I were. Burgundy has been the Emperor for the last hundred years, and has cores on a LOT of my territory through some event whose name i can't remember (it had to do with religion).
 
How bout those Byzantines? On the default settings except for lucky nations on none, and this is what I've done before I stopped

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Biggest opposition has been Venice, and to a point, France - though them being pretty far and usually sending transport ships helps since I own the Mediterranean. I've been staying out of the main portion of Europe because of their tech advantage and how easily the French armies destroyed mine in one short war. I started my colonial ventures by seizing the Venetian and some Spanish colonies in North America and expanding from there after they cored (my African colonies cored only about 5 years before the seized ones).

I most definitely could have done better if I replayed since I feel I've learned a lot since then, but I'd rather pick a new nation lol
 
This was my first game, so I decided to start as someone easy. You don’t get much easier than Castille.

1399-1410
Right off the bat, I got lucky with the mission as it demanded I take Grenada. I do so rather quickly and pick up two new cores and take rather large chunks out of Morocco, Algiers, and Tunisia. As the war ends, I had high Infamy. At first, I was going to relax and let that go down, but I had already built a decent army and remembered someone mentioning somewhere that Portugal started with a small army. I declared war and took their Northern provinces.

1410-1419
Now my Infamy was getting out of control, which encouraged Aragon to declare war on me. They quickly tear Castille apart due to my armies still regrouping in northern Portugal. I spawn a few for soldiers and manage to push them back into Aragon. I managed to siege three provinces and in the peace treaty was allowed to take Valencia. At this point, I send my magistrates to raise my Cultural Tradition and I spawn a Diplomat to put into office and lower my infamy.

1419-1447
Once my Infamy had dropped low enough, I returned to Africa. From there, my Infamy inflates again as I finish Morocco and Tunisia. Once my Infamy fell again, I quickly collected what remained of Algiers and their new ally, Tripoli as well. At that point, I finished my Navy mission and received the mission to start a base in Italy. The choice was easy! There was Italians fresh for the picking right across from my new African base. Sicily was nice and ripe, especially since they had conquered Navarra earlier in the game. My Infamy dropped and I took them. Lucky for me, they were also allied with Aragon and Portugal. I started with Portugal. I annexed what they had left, Infamy jumped up. I blockaded Sicily in their ports and sent my troops to take Navarra and build a defensive wall between myself and Aragon. I let my Infamy drop a few points, invaded Aragon. Once I had them subdued in a long, bloody couple battles, I shipped a few troops off to Sicily. I was almost out of men thanks to Aragon, but luckily most of Sicily’s forces had been lost when I destroyed their fleet. I annexed Sicily and with them, Navarra. I also took a few extra provinces from Aragon.

1447-1487
After many years of bloody war, I settle down to rebuild my forces and lower my Infamy. Lucky for me, England, Scotland, France, and Brittany had been locked in war or I likely would have been getting ganged due to high BB. I focus on my economy, diplomacy, and building my forces for the next 10 years, have a quick war with the devastated Aragon and finish annexing them. I now have the base for my empire and focus only on economy and diplomacy for the next 30 years.

1487-1539
These years started with a mission to colonize lands to the south, so I went and colonized a portion of Africa. I took a glance at the Scandinavian countries. I noticed that through a series of wars, they had been torn apart. Finland had been released, Venice had taken Iceland, and Sweden/Denmark was locked in a war with Scotland and England. I saw opportunity and went for it. I invested everything into Stability. I would need it. I was allied with Burgandy, Pommerania, and the Teutonic Order. I went for Norway first. I quickly tore it down to a few provinces as they were abandoned by Sweden and Denmark. I then took Finland as they were alone and exposed. I finally waited until Sweden and Denmark’s fleets were destroyed before declaring on Denmark. Surprisingly, Sweden didn’t answer the call. I tore Denmark down to one province. I declared on Sweden next. Their forces were decimated; I tore them down to a few provinces. My Infamy was insane, my Stability had dropped, and I was being overwhelmed by rebels. I did not give up. I took the bulk of my forces from Africa, leaving only a few to fight off rebels and shipped them to Scandinavia. I battled the rebels until my Truce wore down and then declared my wars again in the same order. Norway, Finland, Denmark, and finally Sweden. I managed to annex them all. This is where things got ridiculous and my infamy skyrocketed. Due to this mass Infamy, I couldn’t take the rebels. I released Sweden as a vassal and removed my troops from their lands to cover the rebels in the other areas. From there, I sold Sweden the rest of Scandinavia piece by piece for the awesome price of FREE. I was desperate to get rid of the land as rebels had torn my forces apart. By the time I freed myself from the Scandinavian scourge, much of Africa and Iberia was under rebel control and I had a measly 20k troops left. I guess that is what happens when you push too far too fast!

1539-1554
These years were spent fighting back the rebel hordes, lowering infamy, and raising stability. Also, I was given a mission to colonize La Plata, so I headed to South America. Immediately after, I was missioned to the Caribbean. As I selected my colonies, I got a rush of colonists, which allowed me to expand a bit more in the Caribbean while I was there. In the early 1550’s, my long time allies the Prussian’s declared war on the Incans, allowing me to collect a large amount of territories for minimal infamy gain.

1550-1558
Picked up a few more colonies in South America due to the colonize Picunmapu mission. I am then sent to colonize Choco and Quito afterwards. I got another rush of colonists and the mission to colonize Paredareme, so I set sail for Australia. Sweden creates Scandinavia, Teutonic Order creates Prussia, and Scotland creates Great Brittain. Finnish rebels rise and take parts of Prussia while Norwegian rebels retake Iceland. I am told to colonize Cochimi, so I headed to the west coast of North America.


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1558-1600
I am given the mission to keep Austria out of Italy. Italy is Castille’s domain! That is fine with me as I wanted to start moving into Italy anyways. First thing is first. I need a base. Naples just diplomatically insulted me. Here we go. It is Naples, Corsica The Papal State, and Bulgaria vs Spain, Scandinavia, Prussia, and Pommerania. Oh, wait! Prussia dishonors the call. In that same instant, the Incans decide to get revenge on me for the war that those treacherous Prussians declared in the first place. I start by annexing what remains of the Incans, which sparks up my Infamy. I cease to care because my whole goal was Naples. I annex Naples and Bulgaria, taking my Infamy to 80. This encourages Tuscany, the Ottomans, Morea, and Montenegro to join. My armies have already been decimated by rebels in Southern Africa, the Americas, and Italy. All of my forces have been pulled out of Iberia and been distributed across the sea, half my half of my transports been crushed due to a miss click and the Ottomans having caught me off guard. Now things are getting fun..Where are my allies anyways? Three years into this war and neither Pommerania or Scandinavia have sent a single ship or soldier to support me. Gotta love helpful allies. The only real army I have left is around 40,000 soldiers sitting in North Africa. I have no transports to move them into position against the Ottomans. I check my chances for military access with the Mamluks. -200 relationship. That would be a no go, but wait! I already have access across their lands somehow. I’m not sure when or how I got this access, but I have it. We are in business. The ottomans have moved 80,000 of their troops into Greece to attack the newly acquired Bulgaria region. I cut them off by placing all my remaining galley, frigate, and carrack class ships off the coast of Thrace. Into the back door of the Ottoman Empire with my North African army now that the bulk of their forces are cut off. I managed to push far enough to force white peace. At this point, rebels had taken most of South Africa, Australia, South America, and portions of Iberia. I never had a single revolt in North Africa.

I planned to continue the game and get another screen shot, but the client crashed and it was late. It set me back four months and I really didn’t feel like continuing just to get dominated by rebels again. On the bright side, I learned a few things from my first game.

1. Going over the infamy limit makes painful revolts.
2. Vassals as large as Scandinavia and allies are useless when you actually need them. In my minor wars against North Africa, early Sweden/Denmark, Portugal, and Aragon where I did not need much help, my allies were more than willing to show up. In my one major war where it was virtually the “end all”, I fought for 7 years against an opponent that outnumbered me 3 to 1. My biggest ally, Prussia ditched me and then Pommerania and Scandinavia never showed up. My discovery? Never get involved in a war you can’t win yourself. Which I still came out tied with the Ottomans, but I couldn’t spare resources to fight the rebels because of it. This resulted in my downfall.
3. Don’t follow the missions. I had an amazing colonial empire, but it was too spread out. When the rebels struck, I simply did not have the ships or troops to protect it all.
4. Apparently North Africa is more stable than Iberia? o_O Dunno what that was about, but really Iberia began to revolt in large numbers. North Africa was my only solid front without rebellions. Actually, if I go back to the game, I might sacrifice large portions of Iberia to keep North Africa as my new base.

All in all, it was a fun game, but as a new player I simply could not deal with the rebels that high Infamy sent at me. 10-20 brigades in 4-5 provinces at once per month is ridiculous. The truth is, after this game, I’m not sure I will ever waste my time with vassals again. I created a vassal with the 6th largest army following only the Ottomans, Spain, France, Austria, and Hungary in that order. Still, they couldn’t be bothered to organize an army to aid me? Confused me immensely. That said, annexing costs too much Infamy. I guess I should just expand at a much slower rate? In that case, I think other Empires may outgrow me quickly. Dunno, will have to do more testing.
 

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This was my first game, so I decided to start as someone easy. You don’t get much easier than Castille.
4. Apparently North Africa is more stable than Iberia? o_O Dunno what that was about, but really Iberia began to revolt in large numbers. North Africa was my only solid front without rebellions. Actually, if I go back to the game, I might sacrifice large portions of Iberia to keep North Africa as my new base.

North Africa is easy to control because it has no value and very small population. When there are rebellions, they will never be big. Rebellion size is dependent upon the population and/or base tax value. Can't remember which, but Africa had little of either. If you gave up Spain for north Africa you would be quite the fool indeed. You may have just been very lucky if there were no rebels at all.

To lower infamy very quickly, release vassals. Especially those in big regions with lots of low value provinces, such as Scandinavia and North Africa. In retrospect, that really would have saved you there. -2 BB per province released.

You never mentioned your cassus belli in any of those wars. You know, you can take provinces for much less than 4 BB, and you won't take a stability hit, if you have a proper CB. The best one is Holy War. Of course the regions you will expand into will usually be dirt poor, but it is a good, low infamy way to expand nonetheless.
 
So, I went from a humble Baltic empire...

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To this ungodly mass due to inheriting my old enemies of Sweden (along with Denmark, who was my faithful ally before I failed to stop the Swedes from conquering them). It wouldn't be such a big deal, but as this is only my second EU3 game ever, and my first as a colonial empire...

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I've already reach my quota on crappy land. So as amusing as this is, it's not worth the two extra years it'll now take me to tech. The only question is how I go about breaking this all up. I've already sold Viborg off to my ally Finland, and plan to sell them the rest of their cores, too. I can't just release Denmark at the moment, as that'll take Gotland away from me, and I'll be damned if I've had a settlement policy active there for 120 years just to see it pass from my realm. But if I only release Sweden (and probably Pskov), I'll lose out on potentially claiming the Sound Toll for myself. Oh, and Novgorod probably isn't getting jack from me. I'll sale Olonets, Kola, and Archangelsk to Finland for pennies before I give those jerks a bleeding thing.


On the plus side, I think I'll hang on to Estonia. Estland has a respectable population (though I need to convert em', and getting a core in both may make Estonian an accepted religion...), and Ingermanland is already pumping out cash from its fur supplies. That, and I already had Osel so it rounds my borders out a bit, though those jerks in Riga are being, well, jerks... by existing.

Just an absolute mess, though, and absolutely any advice on how to go about slicing up this mess is appreciated. I'd much rather have some giant vassals than a bunch of (mostly) crappy land in Scandinavia.
 
Steamroller is always good for a kick. Balkan France was my doing. Cheeky bastards shouldn't have vassalized Navarre the year before I got the core from forming Spain. (I released Toulouse and Guyenne on the first war along with cancelling the vassalization, thinking that I'd have a more stable border in Europe and be able to focus on crusading my way to China. What I didn't count on was France staying allied with Navarre. When I realized I could exploit this opportunity to release Normandy and Auvergne, thereby ensuring France was good and dead as a major power, I couldn't pass it up.)

Amusing anecdote: I had a 7/9/8 queen on the throne for 35 years in the early 1400s. The only time I've ever cheered for such a good ruler to die. I can only dream of what might have been had she inherited Aragon on her ascent to the throne instead of passing it on to her son.

And to any curious onlookers: Yes, 1480s, no exploration yet. My national ideas are Shrewd Commerce Practice, National Trade Policy, and Military Drill. They've served me better than Quest for the New World could have by now. I'll pick it up later; absorbing Portugal from two Border Wars (seriously, putting the National Focus in Beira was bad enough, putting it in isolated Algarve and giving me a no-stab annexation right afterward?), watching England get blown up by revolutionary Wales and Balkanizing France pretty much shut down the first-tier colonizers, so as long as I don't get too lazy I can delay colonizing in favor of African and Asian crusading.

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Update on my Brunswick > Westphalia game:


PUs over: Brandenburg
Vassals: Friesland, Pomerania-Wolgast, Papal States (previously Wurzburg), Ansbach, Schwyz
(I'm also allied with Austria :D)