Zoroasterism as an included religion?

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Originally posted by Suleyman
does this mean they should also bring in other minority religions (i.e. non state religions of the nations/empires of that time) like Judaism, Sikhism, Jain religion?

oh and how about Voodoo, which technically begin in the late late 18th century (in the time frame of EU2) in the colonized Caribbean islands? why not include that too just to confuse and muddle this game even more?

oh and why don't we also include sorcery and witchcraft into the game, since they were indeed practiced since the middle ages, even tho no actual nation or empire actually used witchcraft as their formal state religion.

oh and to add more silly religions, let's also add Masonry and the Cult of the Illuminati to the list of cult religions into the game so as to screw things up even more

Oh and then we should also change the name of the game to "Religon Universalis", aka The Game with 120 Silly Non-state Religions Included to Appease All Players

Well as long as we're appeasing everyone, can we make up a few religions too?

 

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I like Masons. Greven can build in a whole event string where the real objective of EU is to fight that secret society, find the Holy Grail, and so on.

 

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Originally posted by Aetius

Zoroasterianism and variants/mixes of it (like Manichaeanism) were commonish all around Mare Nostrum around 200-300 AD. St. Augustine was a Manichaean to start of with, I believe. So a geographic approach to Zoroastric influences isn't entirely reliable. That said I'm not very sure of when purgatory appeared in the Catholic belief, so if you have some info I would be interested to know when it started. I don't believe that hell exists in the Orthodox faith either, but I not to sure about it.

I am an Orthodox Christian, and we do posit the existence of "hell", but more as a state of being than a physical location (the same is true for our ideas regarding "heaven" or "paradise").

This is in part because the original Greek that is translated as "Kingdom of Heaven" into Latin and in languages that translate from Latin actually also means "Reign of Heaven". As the West and East moved further apart, the "Reign" meaning (implying a state of being) was forgotten in favor of the "Kingdom" meaning (implying a locale).

Purgatory first seems to have appeared long after the life of St. Augustine. It was a Western medieval doctrine.

 

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Originally posted by Dogface
I am an Orthodox Christian, and we do posit the existence of "hell", but more as a state of being than a physical location (the same is true for our ideas regarding "heaven" or "paradise").
Purgatory first seems to have appeared long after the life of St. Augustine. It was a Western medieval doctrine.

Ok I wasn't sure if hell even occurs in the bible. I've always assumed it was tagged onto the religion afterwards to fit with existing beliefs outside the Levant. What I would be interested in knowing is if hell was considered cold or not. Somehow at some point in history hell went from cold to hot. I'd thought that since Purgatory was hot that hell became hot when they got rid of Purgatory.

 

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On purgatory

from a biased source but still... http://www.catholic.com/ANSWERS/tracts/purgator.htm
Fundamentalists are fond of saying the Catholic Church "invented" the doctrine of purgatory, but they have lots of trouble saying just when. Most professional anti-Catholics--the ones who make their living attacking "Romanism"--seem to place the blame on Pope Gregory the Great, who reigned from 590-604.
But that hardly accounts for the request of Monica, mother of Augustine, who asked her son, in the fourth century, to remember her soul in his Masses. This would make no sense if she thought her soul would not be able to be helped by prayers, if she thought there was no possibility of being somewhere other than heaven or hell.

Purgatory is according to the rather badly argued article a place of cleaning of the unclean. This process is to be done by fire if I remember correctly from other sources, thus the connection to Zoroasterianism.