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Unlikely-apart from a small minority in India Zoroastrianism is effectively a dead religion by 1419, and had been for some centuries. Islam took it in some dislike, I believe.
Originally posted by Gurli
hmmm.....
Gurli, that's about the fourth post of that ilk I've seen today-what's wrong?
Zoroastrianism was effectively extinct from the time of the Muslim conquest in the seventh century, and was quite effectively suppressed in its home region of Persia.
I don't know about that. As an "official" religion perhaps but as for the population the religion survived quite well and still does. Maybe there should be a chance for it's revival?
Marcus
http://www.zoroastrian.org/english/other/toc.htm
FAQ:
http://www.zoroastrian.org/english/other/faq.htm
Still alive and kicking
.Marcus
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Hmmm...well, it may still be alive on the web, but as far as I know it was almost a dead religion in Persia within a couple of centuries of the Arab conquest of Persia, since it was a faith not even granted the limited toleration of Christianity or Judaism in Islamic scripture. Since Persia contained the vast majority of the world's Zoroastrians, that effectively killed its' chances of ever being anything but a minor cult (and in the pre-Christian era it had been something of a missionary religion at times.) I nelieve there may be a few Zoroastrians left in Iran-but they are as persecuted now as they ever were, probably having gone "underground" in the same fashion as the surviving Japanese Christians did.
1419 is just too late to postulate the possible revival of this faith, or to see any Zoroastrian majority provinces.
1419 is just too late to postulate the possible revival of this faith, or to see any Zoroastrian majority provinces.
According to marcusjm, most of Persia still IS Zoroastrian majority provinces. Unless, of course, he misread my question as "which parts of the world did the majority of Zoroastrians live in."
In the same way that it doesn't make much sense for a "Jewish" faith in EU, this wouldn't make sense. Did these faiths have influence in the way the world shaped? Yes, they did. Did they form the majority of any province in the entire world? No, they did not, to my knowledge. As such, unless there is some special event, perhaps "expulsion of the Jews from Spain" event, which hurt Spain a great deal, there isn't much of a place for these religions, as province religion relates to religions that made up the majority of the province.
Maybe including 'minor' religion tolerance for a country as a domestic policy? i.e., Expell/re-admit Jews for Christian countries(The aforementioned spanish example, Oliver Cromwell in England) and perhaps a similar Persecute/tolerate Zoroastrianism for Persia?
Actually, the Zoroastrians were long gone from Persia by 1419, having been driven out centuries before by Islamic persecution. Some took refuge in India, where a few, known as Parsees, still survive even to this day. Having them in the game would serve no purpose, as they are so few by the time the game starts.
I think Zoroastrianism might be good to include in the Roman Empire game. For EU 2 however, absolutely not.
How come Persians still celebrate the Persian New year then?
Of course the traditions are still alive and kicking. Remember that before the Ayatollahs Iran was a secularized country. The tradition to let thousands of birds free is another Zoroasterian tradition that is still excersised throughout Iran.
India shouldn't be forgotten either.
Marcus
Which leads to another religion.
The Norse religions were quite active in Iceland as well until late 17th century. In many forested areas in Sweden Christianity didn't succeed fully until late 16th century.
Just because the official religion is one type doesn't mean that the population automatically embraces it.
Not majority though. I fully accept that but maybe the idea about minorities isn't such a bad idea after all?
Marcus
The Norse religions were quite active in Iceland as well until late 17th century. In many forested areas in Sweden Christianity didn't succeed fully until late 16th century.
Just because the official religion is one type doesn't mean that the population automatically embraces it.
Not majority though. I fully accept that but maybe the idea about minorities isn't such a bad idea after all?
Marcus
There is a quite live zoroastrian community in UK (not too big anyway) and for what I've seen on TV is like christian-masonic religion. Of course must be much much more (it's older than christianism) but that's the impression it gave too me on that program from my poor etnocentric vision.
What are you ranting at me for? I freely admitted I know damn-all about Zoroastrianism. That's why I asked you for more information. And the consensus opinion here seems to be that even if Zoroastrians were still around, they did not form the majority of the population. If you have proof from other sources that this is wrong, maybe you could enlighten us upon where to find it.
I wasn't aware that I was ranting. I was just thinking in the same lines as the judaism proposal.
Marcus
Yup ! Despite minor elements existing today, it is all but dead. Let it rest in peace.
If you resurrect this little religion, you'll have to have every Schism and Sect of the time ..and that my friends is in the 100s maybe 1000s. Try putting that in a slide scale ! Hmmmm..EU3 "The Slide Scale of Faith" ..zzzzzzz
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