Zionism

[Jia Xu]

Sounds like something better suited for a mod methinks. Way too many "what-ifs" can happen during the course of the game to make any vanilla-included event chain not have all that much sense without a hell of a lot of trussing of player actions to ensure "historical" outcomes after 50-70 years of gameplay.

Why not make it a decision like Jerusalem in HTTT?

 

[GregoryTheBruce]

The problem is, the Vicky engine treats "Jew" as a religious, rather than ethnic, alignment. Something which is entirely appropriate historically speaking, considering the immense cultural differences back then (differences that persist to this day) between different kinds of Jews. But something which, likewise, makes a Jewish state inviable in the Vicky system, unless you add an "Israeli" ethnicity which (supposedly by event) Jewish POPs of any ethnicity would convert to.

Actually, Victoria includes Ashkenazic and Sefardic as cultures, which is more accurate than a single "Israeli" ethnicity would be.

 

[Dark Knight]

The problem is, the Vicky engine treats "Jew" as a religious, rather than ethnic, alignment. Something which is entirely appropriate historically speaking, considering the immense cultural differences back then (differences that persist to this day) between different kinds of Jews. But something which, likewise, makes a Jewish state inviable in the Vicky system, unless you add an "Israeli" ethnicity which (supposedly by event) Jewish POPs of any ethnicity would convert to.

Since Victoria already included Ashkenazic and Sephardic cultures, it's a simple matter to use those two as state cultures for the state of Israel. As long as the immigration system for Victoria 2 accurately models the tendency for members of one religion to emigrate to areas already containing a significant population following that religion, then even Jews belonging to other cultures would have increased likelihood of emigrating to Israel.

 

[unmerged(134218)]

wait I changed my mind.
The new idea in the victoria is more freedom to change stuff.
So it would probably be a generic "[culture] wants to leave to its homeland of [province]"
:/

I like this idea better, if only for the hilarity and dynamicism that would result from this. Imagine: "Arabized Berbers want to leave to its homeland of Granada".

I don't really like the idea of having a specific event chain for Zionists only. Nationalism was just begining during this time period; new minorities might be oppressed and may also determine that the way to end oppression is a return to INSERTHOMELANDHERE.

 

[King]

This is not the forum for this. I am not interested in disucssing Nazi Germany's plans for the Jews.