Zealots! Should Fanatic Spiritualist nations get special unit?

[Szarkeu]

As in title I am am quite sure Paradox did not mention this and I am curious if we could get this. I know Fanatic Spiritualist does not mean they will try to kill all other races becuase of diffrent belifes.
On the other hand I am sure some fanatic units, maybe specially trained to do so could show up as an assault kind of army. Or maybe some sort of attachment (forgot how those things were called) to show their zeal?

Anyway guys. What do you think of this topic? Should there be zealtos or no?

 

[Daetrin]

Armies are on the militarist ethos axis, so there shouldn't be army bonuses on any other ethos axis.

 

[Yenzen]

They already get psi troops of some kind.

 

[Jerev]

That would be nice. But as it was stated in another thread: spiritualist are the only ones who have a very high chance of researching psionics. So perhaps that is somehow considered their special unit.

 

[Veracin]

The only other way to get psionics other than being spiritualist is to have a scientist with the psionic trait, so I think spiritualists already have an advantage in that arena.

 

[Reaperdamo]

who is to say that they wont? maybe they are holding some things back. But yes you should have psionics anyway......plus stuff we don't know yet.

 

[Ifreann]

If the logic is that these soldiers are inspired by their fanatic spiritualism to incredible feats of alien-shooting, then wouldn't that equally apply to any fanatic ethos? Should fanatic materialists get special armies that are super zealous about materialism? Should xenophobes and xenophiles?

 

[Jerev]

Well I guess the fact that fanatic militarist can build one oversized vessel made people envy.

 

[Drow7]

Just give spiritualists some unique tech to boost army morale in some way.

 

[Ifreann]

Well I guess the fact that fanatic militarist can build one oversized vessel made people envy.

Pretty sure that's an effect of one of the military governments, not being a fanatic militarist.

 

[Number 7]

My life for Aiur!

 

[ikki]

They already get psi troops of some kind.

You mean Jedi.

 

[Jerev]

Pretty sure that's an effect of one of the military governments, not being a fanatic militarist.

You are right. It is the military dictatorship.
http://www.stellariswiki.com/Government

 

[Yenzen]

You mean Jedi.

What? No, Jedi are a special kind of materialist kinetic troops using biological organelle implants called 'midi-chlorians'.



[Goes to fetch laser shields or something to try and survive the incoming flak]

 

[ikki]

What? No, Jedi are a special kind of materialist kinetic troops using biological organelle implants called 'midi-chlorians'.



[Goes to fetch laser shields or something to try and survive the incoming flak]

hahahaha!

 

[The_Meme_Man]

Tip, when thinking of spiritualism, think of psychology and philosophy, don't think of religion. Metaphysics plays a large role in the two, and while it isn't scientifically grounded, it is still influential and plays on the idea people are limited by their senses to discover everything "scientifically", which has its merit in regards to things we cannot observe or study but can still very well exist.

Spiritualism Description In-Game:
-"It behooves us to remember how tiny we are, how pointless our lives are in this vast uncaring universe... what nonsense! The only truth we can ever know is that of our own existence. The universe - in all its apparent glory - is but a dream we all happen to share."

Fanatical Spiritualism Description In-Game:
-"Our science has proved that consciousness begets reality. We regard with patience the childlike efforts of those who delude themselves as they play with their blocks of 'hard matter'."

Spiritualism in-game, at least from how I interpret these descriptions, just involves the doubting of our (or aliens') senses, observation, and study, and the belief in a scientific reality that cannot be studied (things like souls, mind, consciousness, being, purpose, and relationship with all other life and matter can be explained both spiritually and materialistically, just with different conclusions).



Sorry, that might have gotten off topic, but basically with this explanation I just want to say that things involving Knights Templar/Jihadist units, or crusades, or organized religion, don't really fit "spiritualism" in-game, especially when spiritualism is more or less a competing school of approach to science rather than a complete opposition of science. There is a reason Paradox put things like psionic warriors rather than zealots and holy orders. Psionics is very much in the realm of metaphysical science (though whether or not it can possibly exist in real life is neither known nor important to the matter of how it is represented in game). Zealots would just be religious versions of nationalists, or even mercenaries if we are talking about holy orders (getting paid in salvation rather than money to fight other peoples' wars).