For example to form Yugoslavia.
Is there any chance to see something like that in near future?
Is there any chance to see something like that in near future?
Yugoslavia achievement
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No. Yugoslavia formed in XX century but the game ends in early XIXs. But you can check some mods with extended gametime if you want to play your country.
They both form in XIX cent., and are only 40-50 years after the timeline, not ~100.
They all are one of the following: fictional union (Arabia, Scandinavia), existed before (Egypt) or was a colony (Canada, Quebec, Malaya). And Romania formed in the middle of the XIX as The Romanian United Principalities.
But I really want to see all new XX century nations in game. Paradox may just set the higher demands them to form to prevent them spawn early in game. Like ADM tech = 20.
But I really want to see all new XX century nations in game. Paradox may just set the higher demands them to form to prevent them spawn early in game. Like ADM tech = 20.
+ The Kingdom of God, Jerusalem, Italy, Germany, Hindustan.
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Country Formation has nothing to do with WHEN it was historically formed (or if, there are some formable countries that never existed). It depends on solely if there where those who supported a union.
And the sentiments for forming a nation that united South Slavic peoples existed at the time (as did the dream to unite ALL Slavs) so if a South Slavic ruler did manage to unite the South Slavs, Illyria or Yugoslavia (which literally means South Slavia so yes the name fits any period) WOULD have formed.
Yugoslavia really wasn't an idea invented after fall of Austria...
- and how is that different from Yugoslavia?
- at hte end of XIX to be precise.
- and Ruthenia
As people are always argueing against Yugoslavia/Illyria - what would be a possible name for a united South Slavic kingdom in the Balkans? I know it's ahistorical, but isn't that the beauty in EU4? Making your own history?
South slavic cU ? Why not. The name Yougoslavia buggers me though.
But pan-germanism, pan italian and other existed.
So.. meh, why not.
But pan-germanism, pan italian and other existed.
So.. meh, why not.
I think a south-slav union is a good idea. Definitely give something more to do down there which was lacking before
The biggest problem though is the name. Though Yugoslavia seems to make sense it just feels so anachronistic because the whole anglophone world can only think about the cold war when we hear it. South Slavia also makes sense I guess but it just feels like a fantasy sort of thing. Honestly I don't see paradox doing this, if not for the fact that it's difficult to come up with a name and hence a sort of concept behind it that doesn't feel enormously out of place then the fact that any time anyone even goes near the balkans it stirs up a tremendous shitstorm. I honestly don't see how this could but then again I'm no expert
The biggest problem though is the name. Though Yugoslavia seems to make sense it just feels so anachronistic because the whole anglophone world can only think about the cold war when we hear it. South Slavia also makes sense I guess but it just feels like a fantasy sort of thing. Honestly I don't see paradox doing this, if not for the fact that it's difficult to come up with a name and hence a sort of concept behind it that doesn't feel enormously out of place then the fact that any time anyone even goes near the balkans it stirs up a tremendous shitstorm. I honestly don't see how this could but then again I'm no expert
- so if Yugoslavia is not fictional like Scandinavia it should not be in the game?
- but it is, since EU3 to be precise. And east slavs have whooping 2 cultural unions now, so i cant see why south slavs cant have theirs.
My guess people who have issues about a "Yugoslavia" achievement are keyboard crusaders who view EU4 as some kind of history simulation.
First of all im someone in part from area of former Yugoslavia.
With that said, Germany is Germany, Italy is Italy, Scandinavia makes sense having Kalmar union in mind, and so on.
Yugoslavia as a formable nation doesnt belong in EU4 for one simple reason: Yugoslavia was not a natural unification of South Slavic people, Yugoslavia was a creation made by Great Britain and France after the WW1 in order to create a new balance of powers in Europe that would be in their favor - weakened Austria and crippled Hungary. With that mind, Yugoslavia is heavily context driven idea, one that simply doesnt belong in EU4.
Yugoslavia as some kind of achievement, sure.
With that said, Germany is Germany, Italy is Italy, Scandinavia makes sense having Kalmar union in mind, and so on.
Yugoslavia as a formable nation doesnt belong in EU4 for one simple reason: Yugoslavia was not a natural unification of South Slavic people, Yugoslavia was a creation made by Great Britain and France after the WW1 in order to create a new balance of powers in Europe that would be in their favor - weakened Austria and crippled Hungary. With that mind, Yugoslavia is heavily context driven idea, one that simply doesnt belong in EU4.
Yugoslavia as some kind of achievement, sure.
Ahem
I'll show myself out, but re-read your history please (Romania was formed before Germany or Italy...)
Perhaps get "Yugoslavia" as an achievement if you conquer all of Croatia/Bosnia/Serbia/Montenegro/Ragusa (with one of them)?
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