Yugoslav Wars

[ArianJD]

Excuse me but where is the Armageddon root file?
I am having trouble with installing the download.

 

[Hogar]

in fact, this is DH game. We use this old forum because DH isn't giving us a new one. Armageddon version died long time ago... There isn't downloadable working version on the web.

 

[ArianJD]

Oh... that's kind of sad. But thank you!
They might add it some day, or a fan might create a functioning one which would be endorsed by Paradox Interactive.
You never know.

 

[Hogar]

I doubt it is commercially viable to look at such a small conflict. I think Paradox will stick to wars with global appeal.

 

[TheFreak_97]

Hi people, school finished for me, so is there something that i can still do for the mod, i want it so badly out just like all of us!
Cheers my bro's!

 

[Hogar]

A quick update:
- Added a hypothetical event chain to draw Montenegro into the war on the Serb side (AI chance to not get involved is 0).
- Sorted issue with Macedonia entering wars on Serb/Yugoslav side

Next issue to resolve:
- Krajina still overpowered (fewer units but beats Croatia in August)
- JNA missing manpower to fight the wars in 1991
- Serbian democratic and student movement rallies in 1991


Freak - could you please find a few of the biggest rallies in 1991 against Milosevic and turn them into events?

 

[TheFreak_97]

A quick update:
- Added a hypothetical event chain to draw Montenegro into the war on the Serb side (AI chance to not get involved is 0).
- Sorted issue with Macedonia entering wars on Serb/Yugoslav side

Next issue to resolve:
- Krajina still overpowered (fewer units but beats Croatia in August)
- JNA missing manpower to fight the wars in 1991
- Serbian democratic and student movement rallies in 1991


Freak - could you please find a few of the biggest rallies in 1991 against Milosevic and turn them into events?

Yes i can. I'll do them.
The biggest and only significant are the 9 March demonstrations in Belgrade 1991. I dont know if we have this as an event, its in 1992, (because of mostly Milosevic's fault), the anti war demonstrations in Sarajevo in April 1992.
Im really not quite sure if we have this one also, i'll do them both.

 

[TheFreak_97]

Done, tested, working, picture for event added.
I've set a random event id just for testing, you can change it later if necessary. The event is quite important news so i added that all countries get it.
Event:http://www.mediafire.com/download/7w71hu008v023wn/9_march_milosevic.txt
event_pic:http://www.mediafire.com/download/bykoighihx4ddta/march9.bmp

 

[Hogar]

This is a very nice work Freak. Thank you very much! I've included it immediately.
You are right. There was only one really big riot. Somehow I thought there were more than just that. Basically, I am having problems making Serbia contained. Inheriting all of JNA make her unstoppable. Adding some dissent might be just the key in stopping juggernaut. I am testing that now but it would be good to have some historical events to use for this in-game. Do you mind looking at some other events which would describe turmoil in Serbia at the time?

Some events:
- March Riots (already done)
- Various riots in Kosovo (e.g. Demonstrations on September 10th, independence referendum September 30th)
- Various anti-mobilisation demonstrations in 1991.

 

[TheFreak_97]

This is a very nice work Freak. Thank you very much! I've included it immediately.
You are right. There was only one really big riot. Somehow I thought there were more than just that. Basically, I am having problems making Serbia contained. Inheriting all of JNA make her unstoppable. Adding some dissent might be just the key in stopping juggernaut. I am testing that now but it would be good to have some historical events to use for this in-game. Do you mind looking at some other events which would describe turmoil in Serbia at the time?

Some events:
- March Riots (already done)
- Various riots in Kosovo (e.g. Demonstrations on September 10th, independence referendum September 30th)
- Various anti-mobilisation demonstrations in 1991.

Already working on them! Will post them soon.

 

[TheFreak_97]

Done, events and event pics in the rar.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o2g2tb9dowuxr94/SFRY+Prelude+to+war+events.rar
Cheers man.

 

[Hogar]

Thanks Freak... I like your thoroughness. You even provide nice pictures. I've added most events but need to work on effects (Dubrovnik one I already have). That will come later.
Cheers. H.

 

[TheFreak_97]

Thanks Freak... I like your thoroughness. You even provide nice pictures. I've added most events but need to work on effects (Dubrovnik one I already have). That will come later.
Cheers. H.

Alrightt. Can't wait for the day when we finish this bad boy for a real release.

 

[Hogar]

As the JNA started losing its non-Serb officers its morale, capability and effectiveness dropped. The JNA showed incapable to win wars under these circumstances. In the game terms the JNA units lose the max org and the morale. Compared to 1991, Yugoslav Army performed well in 1999 indicating it regained the lost attributes. I was going to use the Yugoslav Army purges as the end of this regain process some time in 1992. All this talk to help me with the following...

I would like to create a list of events that will retire old communists, non-Serbs, unreliables, etc.. from the JNA to make it Yugoslav Army.
There is a document which is listing all of the retirements of the JNA generals through this period. Can somebody (hint: @thefreak_97) spend time to add the relevant generals to the leaders list (95% should be there) and write an events to retire them? Here is the document in Serbian for 1991 retirements.

The big purge finished in May of 1992. Following were removed:
General-Colonels: Zivota Avramovic, Andrija Raso, dr. Nikola Cubra, Slavoljub Djokic, Dusan Uzelac, and admiral Mile Kandic;
Lieutenant-Generals: Milan Ruzinovski, Zivan Mircetic, Marko Negovanovic, Branko Stankovic, Tihomir Grujic, Spiro Nikovic, Dragutin Djurickovic, and vice-admiral Miodrag Jokic;
General-Majors: Aleksandar Vasiljevic, Jovan Pavlov, Simeon Tumanov, Mato Pehar, Dusan Merzel, Rajko Lapcic, Dusan Koturovic, Slobodan Mikic, Milan Pujic, Dr. Branislav Popovic, Radovan Djuric, Jovan Supic, Milan Aksentijevic, Savo Jankovic, Zoran Kostovski, Ratko Milicevic, Dragoje Vasovic, Anto Karanusic, Branislav Kuzmanovic, Milos Baros, Vojislav Djurdjevac, Muharem Fetahagic, Mirko Nikolovski, and Jovan Popovic.

JNA leaders in the attached file...

Event example....

event = {
   id = 2103 # triggered by decision
   random = no
   country = YUG

   name = "Description"
   desc = "Description"

   action_a = {
      name = "Tense times..."
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810144 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810452 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810453 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810454 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810455 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810462 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810469 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810498 }
   }
}

 

[TheFreak_97]

Okaayyy

 

[petar88]

Does someone can insert a link to a simple download yugoslavia war or video how istal YW?

Thanks!

 

[Hogar]

Does someone can insert a link to a simple download yugoslavia war or video how istal YW?

Thanks!

Not ready yet for the general population...

 

[petar88]

Not ready yet for the general population...

Thank you for the answer. Do you know when will it be?
Thank you!

 

[Hogar]

Thank you for the answer. Do you know when will it be?
Thank you!

Aiming soon for beta... the release date hard to say but somehow always gets moved...

 

[TheFreak_97]

So basically this is how the big purge event should look like: (I've added some leaders that weren't already in the yug leaders file and then into the event.)
This is kinda good, since lack of some leaders will be good for e.g Croatia (when Yugoslavia invades them in Vukovar area etc.) Will be good for historical accuracy.

event = {
   id = 2103 # Purge of the Yugoslav Army decision
   random = no
   country = YUG

   name = "Only the loyal will serve!"
   desc = "After the outbreak of war in Croatia and Bosnia, a huge number of Yugoslav officials in the JNA decided to desert their positions and join the newly formed successor armies. That's why the Command centre of the JNA decided to remove the how they called them, the "not loyal scum from the JNA."

   action_a = {
      name = "Tense times..."
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810109 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810544 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810545 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810546 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810220 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810214 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810113 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810114 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810115 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810116 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810031 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810117 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810188 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810189 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810019 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810118 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810119 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810120 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810121 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810122 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810123 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810124 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810125 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810126 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810127 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810051 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810128 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810129 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810130 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810131 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810132 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810133 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810134 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810135 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810136 }
      command = { type = sleepleader which = 3810137 }
   }
}