Yugoslav Wars

[dIRECTOR871]

Arsenal of Democracy

I'm not sure whether this issue came up before, but this thread is HUGE...

Folks, the Arsenal of Democracy AI simply makes playing Armageddon stupid. Its like playing Call of Duty 4 when you have Call of Duty 5 installed. I wonder, can this work on AoD? If not, please tell me if there's a way to normally play it on AoD? And again, if not, will you guys consider fixing up the mod for AoD in the near future?

Another question, what's the "NTL-patch!"?

 

[Vaximillian]

I'm not sure whether this issue came up before, but this thread is HUGE...

Folks, the Arsenal of Democracy AI simply makes playing Armageddon stupid. Its like playing Call of Duty 4 when you have Call of Duty 5 installed. I wonder, can this work on AoD? If not, please tell me if there's a way to normally play it on AoD? And again, if not, will you guys consider fixing up the mod for AoD in the near future?

Another question, what's the "NTL-patch!"?

1. Huge threads are HUGE...
2. a) This wasn't designed for AoD
b) And wasn't tested there afaik.
c) However, Hax knows more than me. He's a Mod Leader, and I'm a mere gfx modder...
3. NTL is No Time Limit. It does just what it's supposed to do - removes time limit in HoI which enables to play past 1964 and before 1935.

 

[unmerged(151332)]

Can I help with something.

 

[JRHINDO]

I made a music folder using the Anthems I posted above. Could someone recommend a file uploading site?

Or maybe I can email it?

Do please upload this for us!



Here are the songs for cro, slo and ser

croatia\NATIONAL ANTHEM OF CROATIA
croatia\Vivat Croatia
croatia\Stop the war in Croatia
croatia\Vrati Se Ivo (rock)
croatia\Zlatni Dukati Vukovar
croatia\duh ratnika
croatia\dzekic evozore
croatia\Prijatelji
croatia\Najljepse Domoljubne Pjesme Od Stoljeca Sedmog
croatia\Boze cuvaj Hrvatsku

serbia\vlado cetnicke Riblja Corba Himna kosova
serbia\Marsirala Kralja Petra Garda
serbia\Najzesce Cetnicke Pesme Boze pravde
serbia\Nema Raja
serbia\Zorica Markovic Moj Bozure
serbia\E moj druze zagrebacki Mindjusari i Riblja
serbia\Razni izvodjaci Spremte sa spremte, cetnici
serbia\serbia srbija vidovdan
serbia\Ko to kaze ko to laze
serbia\Od Topole Pa Do Ravne Gore

slovenia\Slo Himna
slovenia\Hej Brigade
slovenia\Hej Tovarisi
slovenia\Jutri Gremo V Napad
slovenia\Kdo Pa So Ti Mladi Fantje
slovenia\Na Juris
slovenia\Pesem XIV Divizije
slovenia\Sellam Alejkum
slovenia\Svobodna Slovenija

 

[dIRECTOR871]

A shame, that... I really hope you guys will fix it up for Arsenal of Democracy. Thanks for your time

 

[dIRECTOR871]

I wonder if you fellas know about an error... When you create a new puppet Yugoslav state (in the normal game), the capital of Yugoslavia is always Osijek

 

[unmerged(151332)]

They didnt know much about Balkans, but they can learn from us modders. By the way check my upcoming mod Cuban revolution. Sorry hax for spam.

 

[JRHINDO]

I wonder if you fellas know about an error... When you create a new puppet Yugoslav state (in the normal game), the capital of Yugoslavia is always Osijek

When you create a new yugoslav puppet??

 

[dIRECTOR871]

1) Ok I'm playing with the USSR on AoD. I defeat Germany, annex everything in Europe and am the owner of Yugoslav territory. I create a Yugoslav puppet state and I get the capital at Osijek. This is not the first time either, it happens consistently. I remember it was a problem on Armageddon too. For some reason when you create a Yugoslavia, the capital is Osijek

2) The next most noticeable problem is the entirely fictional flag the country has on Arsenal of Democracy. Yugoslavia never ever used that weird flag in any capacity at any time. Somebody just copy-pasted the royal Yugoslav coat of arms in the center of the blue-white-red tricolor. Why? I can't imagine... (A similar problem exists with the Romanian flag, and the Austrian flag.)
The old flag from Doomsday (the plain blue-white-red tricolor) was correct, however - its color shades were completely off. Somebody just used the generic red and blue colors, instead of the Yugoslav, pan-Slavic shades of red & blue (see enWikipedia for details).

3) Josip Broz Tito has no less than four different pics...

4) Draza Mihailovic is supposedly a "social democrat" (when he should obviously be a "paternal autocrat"), so he's often included in Josip Broz Tito's government xD

5) Dusan Simovic's personality is not listed as an "Old Air Marshal", even though he was, in fact, an "old air marshal"...

These are the more obvious ones. I'm a senior editor on the English Wikipedia and I write extensively on Yugoslav history (WWII & the 1990s in particular). I'm also a very old HoI player, I love the game. If you guys should happen to need some historical info, please ask.

 

[JRHINDO]

1) Ok I'm playing with the USSR on AoD. I defeat Germany, annex everything in Europe and am the owner of Yugoslav territory. I create a Yugoslav puppet state and I get the capital at Osijek. This is not the first time either, it happens consistently. I remember it was a problem on Armageddon too. For some reason when you create a Yugoslavia, the capital is Osijek

2) The next most noticeable problem is the entirely fictional flag the country has on Arsenal of Democracy. Yugoslavia never ever used that weird flag in any capacity at any time. Somebody just copy-pasted the royal Yugoslav coat of arms in the center of the blue-white-red tricolor. Why? I can't imagine... (A similar problem exists with the Romanian flag, and the Austrian flag.)
The old flag from Doomsday (the plain blue-white-red tricolor) was correct, however - its color shades were completely off. Somebody just used the generic red and blue colors, instead of the Yugoslav, pan-Slavic shades of red & blue (see enWikipedia for details).

3) Josip Broz Tito has no less than four different pics...

4) Draza Mihailovic is supposedly a "social democrat" (when he should obviously be a "paternal autocrat"), so he's often included in Josip Broz Tito's government xD

5) Dusan Simovic's personality is not listed as an "Old Air Marshal", even though he was, in fact, an "old air marshal"...

These are the more obvious ones. I'm a senior editor on the English Wikipedia and I write extensively on Yugoslav history (WWII & the 1990s in particular). I'm also a very old HoI player, I love the game. If you guys should happen to need some historical info, please ask.

Well this is YW mod for Arma and AoD crap is not our problems we have our own

 

[Hax]

Can I ask what songs have been included for Slovenia? Actually can I also know what have been done for Serbia and Croatia also?? This is what really interest me Songs as Ko to kaže ko to laže for Serbia
and Zovi, samo zovi for Croatia should both be included. I believe that anyone from those countries know very good what i talk about. I mean it is like Lili Marlen for IIWW Germany, without it it will be too much sterile.

Those songs are not included I think, but I will see and listen if they should be JRHINDO, you do that also!

Folks, the Arsenal of Democracy AI simply makes playing Armageddon stupid. Its like playing Call of Duty 4 when you have Call of Duty 5 installed. I wonder, can this work on AoD? If not, please tell me if there's a way to normally play it on AoD? And again, if not, will you guys consider fixing up the mod for AoD in the near future?

Well as said before I want to make this mod first playable for HoI/ARMA.
THEN, when it's ready I we can make it working for AoD.

Can I help with something.

Try to find pictures of:
Montenegro,
Dragan Milosavljevic
Milan Zec

 

[JRHINDO]

Those songs are not included I think, but I will see and listen if they should be JRHINDO, you do that also!

I will if someone give me a link.

 

[unmerged(151332)]

40 more post and it will be university.

 

[unmerged(207046)]

I will if someone give me a link.

One song for Croatia - Hrvatska mati http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV4vFS38QK4&feature=related

Also one that is quite famous Evo zore evo dana http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSB4NrxW748&feature=related

now for serbia you have the one I wanted to add. Ko to kaze ko to laze.

for slovenia I would add Samo milijon nas je http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgRZ10o_KDI&playnext_from=TL&videos=qgRc9ddHYCo

I am not sure what is Sellam Alejkum doing in Slovenian music folder. :rofl: I would say it has escaped from Bosnian-muslim music folder

Also I believe that

slovenia\Hej Brigade
slovenia\Hej Tovarisi
slovenia\Jutri Gremo V Napad
slovenia\Kdo Pa So Ti Mladi Fantje
slovenia\Na Juris
slovenia\Pesem XIV Divizije

are all from IIWW and not very popular any more during 90s (except for the first one Hej brigade, that one is classic and should stay)

So maybe we could add:
- Slovenia http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0733xuyn0ho&feature=related


maybe you could also add these songs that were popular or famous during 91 :

Slovenija moja dežela - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mluKmCj_XXw&feature=related

Na golici (potentially as it has nothing to do with war, but is like a second anthem of Slovenia D: ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7gFNaGYEs8

it is not so easy to find war songs for Slovenia and that would not be from IIWW. we do have much more drinking songs

also this one is interesting , though not really known but it might be useful as it is different
v gori zeleni - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pD_ltZmUQXk&feature=related

 

[Hax]

Bendit, thank for those links.
Me and JRHINDO will look on that

Also: Zaklonišče Prepeva- Sellam Alejkum

 

[Cavoglave]

I am working on a Yugoslav countries war mod for HOI 3, I made over 40 new units including Chetnik units, Ustasha and Domobrani Units, Tito Partisan Units. I added over 130 Generals for Croatia, 60 for Serbia and 60 Comm. YU. I made a new Tech-Folder for the Balkan countries, so if you interested to put our heads together, I will soon launch a website with all the stuff.

 

[unmerged(207046)]

Bendit, thank for those links.
Me and JRHINDO will look on that

Also: Zaklonišče Prepeva- Sellam Alejkum

Well this is OK song, but it has nothing really to do with the wartimes, it is new song I think, although it mentions those events....your choice, but I think it doesnt really fit in.

Also one thing, I think that also for SFRY very good song that should be included is - Igra rokenrol cela Jugoslavija.... you will get the feeling from this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHzGsDObUs it is from movie Lepa sela lepo gore "Pretty Village, Pretty Flame"
and this is the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpMAfJv7J2Y this song is in a way a synonym for civil war in Yugoslavia, at least in my mind.

 

[Vaximillian]

40 more post and it will be university.

What do you mean? university? 4k replies to the thread?

 

[unmerged(207046)]

Also one song that could use for slovenia is zate slovenia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiDaneW1Cw

 

[Hax]

I am working on a Yugoslav countries war mod for HOI 3, I made over 40 new units including Chetnik units, Ustasha and Domobrani Units, Tito Partisan Units. I added over 130 Generals for Croatia, 60 for Serbia and 60 Comm. YU. I made a new Tech-Folder for the Balkan countries, so if you interested to put our heads together, I will soon launch a website with all the stuff.

PM sent

Well this is OK song, but it has nothing really to do with the wartimes, it is new song I think, although it mentions those events....your choice, but I think it doesnt really fit in.

Also one thing, I think that also for SFRY very good song that should be included is - Igra rokenrol cela Jugoslavija.... you will get the feeling from this clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHzGsDObUs it is from movie Lepa sela lepo gore "Pretty Village, Pretty Flame"
and this is the song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpMAfJv7J2Y this song is in a way a synonym for civil war in Yugoslavia, at least in my mind.

We will check that

Also the 0.02 version have got more then 100 downloads!
Woho!!