"Your subjet rejected..." - no get rid of it, it's stupid

[wthree]

So I've noticed an event or some kind of action, that allows subjects to simply reject integration.

Please get rid of this, it's ridiculous and stupid. There seems to be no way to prevent this from happening, it's not an event and provides no explanation at all as to the reasons why. What's more it means you've lost a massive amount of diplomatic points for nothing other than ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

In fact, if you do intend to keep the action, I would suggest replacing the flavour text with just:

"¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Options: "soz lol"

 

[Republic of Mercury]

I think it's caused by their capital, or possibly any of their provinces, being occupied by an enemy (possibly including rebels), although it's supposed to only pause the integration. That's the nice thing about playing an open beta; there are occasionally bugs.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

I think it's caused by their capital, or possibly any of their provinces, being occupied by an enemy (possibly including rebels), although it's supposed to only pause the integration. That's the nice thing about playing an open beta; there are occasionally bugs.

It has existed in some form (shown when attempting to annex heathen PUs) since I started playing in Dec. 2013.

 

[Republic of Mercury]

It has existed in some form (shown when attempting to annex heathen PUs) since I started playing in Dec. 2013.

Integrations randomly stopping for seemingly no reason?

 

[TheMeInTeam]

Integrations randomly stopping for seemingly no reason?

Specifically for personal unions over heathens, it would stop instantly giving that message or similar, but the reason (heathen PU) wasn't stated.

 

[Schiltrus]

you literally cannot integrate PUs as non christians. I've reported this for so long but nobody cares.

 

[grommile]

Given that you're not supposed to have PUs as (or over) non-Christians, any situation where you end up with one in the first place should be reported as a bug.

 

[Vulkandrache]

you literally cannot integrate PUs as non christians. I've reported this for so long but nobody cares.

That is literally not true.
You cant integrate Heathen PU`s. If you enfore religion on there its no problem, atleast not with the integration.

Given that you're not supposed to have PUs as (or over) non-Christians, any situation where you end up with one in the first place should be reported as a bug.

Are you not supposed to HAVE them or GET them.
What you are saying is that PU`s should just break if one of the two countries switches away from christian.

 

[grommile]

What you are saying is that PU`s should just break if one of the two countries switches away from christian.

Sure. After all, protectorates break instantly if the subject ceases to be a valid target for the protectorate relationship, and pretty much the only way for an AI country to change religion across groups is if it Zealot rebels enforce their demands.

 

[zdlugasz]

Given that you're not supposed to have PUs as (or over) non-Christians, any situation where you end up with one in the first place should be reported as a bug.

At least a few patches ago there was event, which could give you PU (even for non-Christian religion) if you shared dynasty. And keeping PU after religion switch (IMO) is second legitimate way to have PU as non-Christian.

 

[grommile]

They also went to the trouble of cloning any historical non-Christian ruler who had a PU.

 

[Trin Tragula]

There's a known bug which makes annexation progress abort instead of stalling due to occupation. We are aware of that and looking into it.

you literally cannot integrate PUs as non christians. I've reported this for so long but nobody cares.

This is a separate thing. I would be very interested in how you get those PU's the game is not supposed to let you have those as a non-christian.

At least a few patches ago there was event, which could give you PU (even for non-Christian religion) if you shared dynasty. And keeping PU after religion switch (IMO) is second legitimate way to have PU as non-Christian.

That was a bug and fixed

They also went to the trouble of cloning any historical non-Christian ruler who had a PU.

There was only one such instance in the game as far as I'm aware.

 

[Vulkandrache]

This is a separate thing. I would be very interested in how you get those PU's the game is not supposed to let you have those as a non-christian.

I know of two ways:

1.One of the countries changes religion after the PU was formed.

2. The Bug/Feature in a force PU war.
The original warleader gets annexed in another war and the warleader switches but "force Union" peace is still a valid option.

"Fixing" the first one would be putting fun and gameplay second which is not good.
The second on is so rarely aplicable that fixing it seems pointless.

 

[Schiltrus]

start as castille, switch to sunni, get iberian wedding, form andalusia, try to integrate aragon, fails guaranteed

 

[grommile]

You'll have to excuse me if I have negative sympathy towards your plight in that case

 

[Gigawot]

should IB even fire if one is sunni? since that technically would be a failed reconquista

 

[Republic of Mercury]

should IB even fire if one is sunni? since that technically would be a failed reconquista

It probably shouldn't, but as of now there is no religion check for the Iberian Wedding event. Nor, while we're on the subject, is there one for the PLC, so if you (somehow) manage to convert Poland to Sunni in the few months before Lithuania offers you their king, there's nothing stopping you from forming the union anyway.

Edit: Although the only way for that to happen, that I can think of, would be for the Ottomans or such to no-cb you, then give you enough Sunni-land in the peace-deal that the resulting rebels are able to convert you. Probably not very likely.