Your first game with new HIP with Eastern Expansion?

[Ispil]

Belojevic conquest of Europe. I promised to make an AAR once this releases, and so I must.

Also adding in a personal mod to re-draw basically the borders of all of Europe's kingdoms, duchies, and empires that can only be activated once I successfully conquer most of Europe. Why would a Serbian emperor care for previously-defined borders? And no, not everything will be viceroys- each kingdom will be elective gavelkind. From there, I'll just try to keep everything intact while letting each kingdom expand of their own accord.

 

[Arcvalons]

Something in Persia

 

[Remke]

Alexios, certainly. With the Seljuks, the Fatimids, and maybe Hungary and Croatia given lucky rulers.

 

[StarlightTW]

Khitan game with the intent of sweeping down into the middle east and then either pushing into Anatolia or North Africa/Sicily.

 

[Ese Khan]

Khitan game with the intent of sweeping down into the middle east and then either pushing into Anatolia or North Africa/Sicily.

I have every reason to encourage a Khitan campaign. Check what things are new!

 

[StarlightTW]

I have every reason to encourage a Khitan campaign. Check what things are new!

Will do! Just got home from work so need to buy Horse Lords (and House Lords) and fire up the new update.

 

[elvain]

Khitan game with the intent of sweeping down into the middle east and then either pushing into Anatolia or North Africa/Sicily.

I have every reason to encourage a Khitan campaign. Check what things are new!

Will do! Just got home from work so need to buy Horse Lords (and House Lords) and fire up the new update.

IMHO it would be little better to wai for the Khitan game for a later release, as there are still some holes in the early 12th century history (there are still many minors mising in Persia which makes the situation there playable but not as historical as SWMH would deserve).

 

[Andrzej I]

A slightly modified game to work with Edgar the Aetheling for an AAR. I'll likely wait for some of the initial bugs of the release to be patched out, though. Excited for it

 

[Ese Khan]

IMHO it would be little better to wai for the Khitan game for a later release, as there are still some holes in the early 12th century history (there are still many minors mising in Persia which makes the situation there playable but not as historical as SWMH would deserve).

Well, my African nomad games (Beja and banu Khattab) ended in utter failures just like AI, so I'll try my luck with this character:

 

[elvain]

Well, my African nomad games (Beja and banu Khattab) ended in utter failures just like AI, so I'll try my luck with this character:

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Surprisingly good stats he has
well, a remnant from testing times which I thought could be good easter egg until I find a better and more historical replacement
Good luck with him.

My favourite are also the Lamtûna berbers in the south-western corner of the Sahara, the ancestors of the Almoravids - the nomads on the edge of the border of muslim world an West Africa... Also quite hard usualy.

But generaly I agree that the nomads need some improvement. They were supposed to be existential threat to the sedentary populations living next to them, not the oposite.

 

[elvain]

Something in Persia

will that be a nomad (in that case I recommend either the Baloch in 867 or in 1066 it would be Shabankarai kurds or some of minor Turkmen tribes in north-western Khorasan)?
for minors I'd recommend Ghurids in either starting date. Or the Seljuks of Kerman.. or if you want to be Persian in 1066 you can play as Kakuyids of Yazd (the pre-Seljuk lords of Isfahan) or some of the many Turkmens. Hope you'll enjoy any character you play

 

[Minicactus]

I'll probably start with either a 867 Paulician playthrough or a First Crusade bookmark Cilician Armenia game.

 

[yenot]

This

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Too bad you cannot create kingdoms in Persia as Zoroastrian and Persian Empire as non-Iranian. I'll find a way though

 

[theKing1988]

This

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Too bad you cannot create kingdoms in Persia as Zoroastrian and Persian Empire as non-Iranian. I'll find a way though

We are fixing that by the way, for the upcoming version. The creation requirements at the moment are too restrictive of course.

 

[Warial]

IMHO it would be little better to wai for the Khitan game for a later release, as there are still some holes in the early 12th century history (there are still many minors mising in Persia which makes the situation there playable but not as historical as SWMH would deserve).

Still, it feels lovely to crush Seljuk army at Talas...

By the way, can I have several questions about Khitans? First, why the dynasty name is "Yælud"? I've never seen this form before. Second there seem to be leftover vanilla Yelu-Dashi and Tabuyan in the court of Kara Khitai.

 

[yenot]

We are fixing that by the way, for the upcoming version. The creation requirements at the moment are too restrictive of course.

Wow, great! I thought that no kingdom for zoros is probably an oversight. Will that version be save-compatible?

 

[Ese Khan]

By the way, can I have several questions about Khitans? First, why the dynasty name is "Yælud"? I've never seen this form before. Second there seem to be leftover vanilla Yelu-Dashi and Tabuyan in the court of Kara Khitai.

That's my doing.

Yelü, which is the transliteration we are used to seeing, is a modern Mandarin transliteration of an older Chinese transliteration, so the name was basically twice removed from how it would have been pronounced by the Khitan. I was going through some Japanese academic articles on the Khitan script, and one of them offered an IPA transliteration of that which we know as Yelü (Jælud/Jærud, to be exact). All the new names in the Khitan name lists, Khitan titles, and most of the new/replaced Khitan dynasty names are from those articles.

I'll notify the SWMH team about duplicate characters - seems like they survived the hunt before release yesterday!

 

[Vox Nihili]

I've yet to actually start a game. Mostly been just checking out the expanded/enhanced map as well as the new interface. I Like the changes so far though I feel it cuts off too much of the map screen unless zoomed out a but. No biggie though. First game may be something simple like Karling 1066 start and put them on French throne.

 

[zijistark]

But generaly I agree that the nomads need some improvement. They were supposed to be existential threat to the sedentary populations living next to them, not the oposite.

The biggest problem nomads have on the SWMH map right now is that there are too many of them too tightly-packed, and their provinces have zilch for "empty holding slots," which is how nomad population and manpower are derived (and thus troops and, well, everything important to a nomad). Note that these provinces don't require historical baronies that correspond to settlements. They just require some slots to better represent the "useful emptiness" of the land. As for African nomads, mostly I think that a lot of the minor holdings in their provinces (cities, often, strangely enough) could be swapped-out for empty holding slots.

 

[theKing1988]

Definetely agree with the last sentence. That is something we should take a look at for sure