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Stigandr

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I thought that most Englishmen knew about the Ottos. However, it seems that they are ignoring them.

Some English people do know about them, but a lot don't.

Hidden Legend, we didn't study Gallipoli. We did study WW1, but Eastern Europe in general was only really mentioned in passing. (something that really irritates me, since I'm a bit of a Slavophile :) )

Delex, wasn't Slovenia raided by the Ottomans? In which case you've still had more impact from them than we have - countries seem to mostly study the countries which have had the greatest direct impact on them - eg in England we mostly study (when we're not studying British history) France, Germany, and the US.
 
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I wouldn't say so... Iraq and Afghanistan?

4BB for each province... ouch. Diplomatic Insult CB doesn't help with that kind of problem...

Iraq and Afghanistan, have not been annexed. In EU3 one only gets infamy from random events or during peace deals. How many provinces is that anyway? Where does the Diplomatic Insult CB come in? They expire after a year, anyway.
 
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Well Iraq annexed Kuwait and gained 0 Infamy for being it its claim. Then USA used forge imperial UN liberation mission (You get that option after 1990 if you are the strongest nation in the UN). Then USA invaded Iraq from Hedjaz using military access. They then forced a peace with Iraq using vassalise, change government and release Kuwait netting them some 4 infamy.
 

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Well Iraq annexed Kuwait and gained 0 Infamy for being it its claim. Then USA used forge imperial UN liberation mission (You get that option after 1990 if you are the strongest nation in the UN). Then USA invaded Iraq from Hedjaz using military access. They then forced a peace with Iraq using vassalise, change government and release Kuwait netting them some 4 infamy.
Change government? You sure? I thought they just released Kuwait and that was it. I wasn't around at the time but I gather that the US coalition got quite alot of criticism for allowing the Sadam regime to stay in place in the first place.
 
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Change government? You sure? I thought they just released Kuwait and that was it. I wasn't around at the time but I gather that the US coalition got quite alot of criticism for allowing the Sadam regime to stay in place in the first place.

O yea messed up. The first time they just liberated Kuwait and invaded from Saudi Arabia and the second time they invaded from Kuwait and changed the government. My bad.
 
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Stigandr-In Slovenia everyone knows about the Ottomans, but pretty much no one knows about Prussia (Well except those which have at least a limited interest in history).

yeah, in austria too. :rolleyes:
btw. have been to ljubljana last summer. its a damn smooth city, i've got to say.

If any one of you international guys is thinking about vacation in europe, you can defenitely give slovenia and kroatia a try.
very nice places to be, and the both capitals are a must see.

but actually right now I'm thinking about making a tour to the former ottoman empire. But I'm not sure if I should go through hungary, serbia, bulgaria/romania to the black sea (along the danube), and then south, or more along the adriatic coast to see some of the good old greek provinces and new rebel countries..

or better to the baltics? and maybe moskva.. has anybody of you ever been there?
 

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4BB for each province... ouch. Diplomatic Insult CB doesn't help with that kind of problem...

I am pretty sure Iraq was a 'Fabricated Documents' CB. And who to think only Monarchs could get these... mmm...
 

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you know you play this too much, when you see a typo, and wonder if the author will fix it in the patch.
when you get a coffee and wonder what center of trade it goes through.
when you wonder why zimbabwe doesnt slow down minting and send more merchants to lower their 30 million% inflation.
when you wonder what national idea's a country has.
 

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...when you're looking in a math book, see COT, and wonder why the f**k a trigonometry textbook is talking about a Center of Trade. (COT is cotangent in case you dont remember any trig).

PS: this actually happens to me a lot.
 

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