You know what they say about great heirs...

[Pinstar]

Taking guesses, how young is this guy going to die, and by what means?

 

[Djieh]

I'll say he dies at age 27 of natural causes. I hate that the most ... :glare:

 

[Cuthuthulu]

3 days before or after your current ruler dies.

 

[Spartanlemur]

I'll say he dies at age 27 of natural causes. I hate that the most ... :glare:

Can't agree enough! My Byzantine heir wife died before giving me a son of natural causes at 19 years old yesterday....facepalm moment.

 

[Goldor2005]

If you wind up granting him some land, he will die leading his troops against some random rebellion.

 

[Pinstar]

You are all too charitable.

I sealed his fate by posting this thread...

 

[mattosika]

lol. epic.

 

[kraussda]

You are all too charitable.

I sealed his fate by posting this thread...

Never EVER send your heir to collect taxes. Just research some nice, safe economy tech.

 

[Djieh]

You are all too charitable.

I sealed his fate by posting this thread...

Darn it, I should have payed more attention! If I had seen in the first pic that you sent him to collect taxes ... It was so obvious!

It would have been nice to see him live until he was 61 only for his father to survive him slightly aged 82 ...

 

[The_Blind_One]

typical

guard those good heirs like treasures.

They're like battleships, incredibly awesome and valuable, but so valuable you can't even really put them to use...

When I saw you had put him on collecting taxes...I could have guessed it would be peasant rabble... just for that reason I never have my best heir as steward or marshal.

 

[keynes2.0]

He had good stats but his traits are arguably more important and they were meh. You only want wroth in a general, it is not very good in a king since kings dont need to lead themselves (although that is an option in his case). Pride isn't the worst but it's still not good. He's only got two virtues if you count gregarious. And he's got ambitious which gives a further penalty to relations with ambitious vassals, the one who are already most likely to give you trouble.

 

[unmerged(457738)]

We need a hall of fame thread to cover the challenges of playing without reloading: Lowest average ruler age on death, Most years with rulers in regency, Lowest average stewardship stat etc. Those are the types of stats which indicate how hard a game really was and they never seem to get a mention.

 

[JonStryker]

We need a hall of fame thread to cover the challenges of playing without reloading: Lowest average ruler age on death, Most years with rulers in regency, Lowest average stewardship stat etc. Those are the types of stats which indicate how hard a game really was and they never seem to get a mention.

Feel free to recommend any record you want
(it's still pretty empty, you know)

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?650411-CK2-Hall-of-Fame-v2

 

[Djieh]

He had good stats but his traits are arguably more important and they were meh. You only want wroth in a general, it is not very good in a king since kings dont need to lead themselves (although that is an option in his case). Pride isn't the worst but it's still not good. He's only got two virtues if you count gregarious. And he's got ambitious which gives a further penalty to relations with ambitious vassals, the one who are already most likely to give you trouble.

Well, I would take this guy any day over my kind but otherwise entirely sub-par King of Rus. His best stat is learning ... at 8 iirc.

I think good stats are way more important than traits that improve your relations. This guy probably would have countered half the negative effects with his 15 diplomacy skill. And if the necessity for a war did arise, his 24 stewardship should allow him to hire quite a few mercs in addition to his huge demesne levies. Not to mention he might have led them into battle himself, being a genius general.

Of course, it depends on the circumstances. But as it looks, the OP plays as a count and at least doesn't have to worry too much about his vassals lingering in his backyard with their haystacks and some torches ...

 

[Ahaz Flagg]

HEHE, when you get a great heir, look at your 3rd best, because he is your true heir!!

 

[riadach]

We should be able to put princes in towers and protect them with dragons.

 

[der Kriegsherr]

We should be able to put princes in towers and protect them with dragons.

Knowing our luck with awesome heirs, "At age (x), (y) was killed by a dragon" would become a reasonable outcome.

 

[Spartanlemur]

We should be able to put princes in towers and protect them with dragons.

I'd actually love to see some form of fairy-tale world mod based of the stories of Hans Christian Andersen and the Brothers Grimm with loads of flavour. Might do that myself actually when I'm finished with the two TC's I'm currently working on.

 

[riadach]

Knowing our luck with awesome heirs, "At age (x), (y) was killed by a dragon" would become a reasonable outcome.

Or better yet "Prince (x) and Dragon (y) have got married. Should we collect dues for the occasion?".

 

[panda_Express12]

One game I had a really low diplomacy (around 10) councilor who gave me around 4 fabricated claims in his lifetime. When he died of old age I set up my 24 diplomacy son as councilor and sent him to fabricate a claim. After just 3 months he got caught and was killed The other guy never got caught so I figured my son would be fine.