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Kidneythump

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I love the concept but I find it extremely frustrating at the moment, I recently started a new game as the byzantine emperor, I've managed to keep the title for close to 200 years now and every time my emperor dies i get Independence factions popping up, these are also the only factions that come to fruition nothing else manages to get enough members. I would have loved some title claimant wars but none pops only those damn independence wars that are way more frustrating than fun
 

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If you want you could just let them become independent, get strong claims on their titles, and then usurp them. Honestly I've gotten to point where I piss off Vassals on purpose to steal their titles.
 

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Is it normal for your vassal to join a faction, even at +100 opinion? My uncle(king of Armenia), who have no claim on the Roman Empire joined the independence faction despite having +100 opinion.

I thought de jure vassals would never join a faction if high opinion. Or is that for dukes only?
 

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Is it normal for your vassal to join a faction, even at +100 opinion? My uncle(king of Armenia), who have no claim on the Roman Empire joined the independence faction despite having +100 opinion.

I thought de jure vassals would never join a faction if high opinion. Or is that for dukes only?

Hmm dunno, but I know I've seen one of the despots refuse to leave at 91 opinion when the emperor was a lunatic
 

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Is it normal for your vassal to join a faction, even at +100 opinion? My uncle(king of Armenia), who have no claim on the Roman Empire joined the independence faction despite having +100 opinion.

I thought de jure vassals would never join a faction if high opinion. Or is that for dukes only?

The leader of the independence faction could have used his spymaster to persuade him to join.