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Well, that was a lucky advisor..... Ah, the foolish AI-making your job easier all te time...
 

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You were yoshied again :rolleyes:

The good thing about Ming still being quite big is how cheap provinces are at the negotiation table. Why did you take the Mongolian provinces in the end, attrition and easy access to Manchuria later I guess?
 

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The less countries in your tech group the less people who can snag your wonderous diplomats. Time to go stomping in Europe.

I wonder if things would go faster if you released vassals to drop BB, annexed a bunch of stuff, and then diplo annexed them back in?
 

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I dont think that will work!
 

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The less countries in your tech group the less people who can snag your wonderous diplomats. Time to go stomping in Europe.

I wonder if things would go faster if you released vassals to drop BB, annexed a bunch of stuff, and then diplo annexed them back in?
It might be possible to do pre-1650. Annex heathen provinces for 0.5 BB and release vassals for 1 BB per province, though I guess it would be pretty exploitish...
 

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and you'll have to pay the extra BB to annex them again
there is better exploits ^^
Yes, but it would allow you to temporarily reduce BB enough to annex more heathen provinces at the pre 1650 discount than your BB limit would otherwise permit.
Release a 10 province vassal. (-10 BB) Conquer 20 heathen provinces (+10 BB).
You now have 10 provinces more than before with no increase in BB.
Yes, there may be additional costs for (undiplomatic) annexation, but it's still 10 free provinces.
 

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Yes, but it would allow you to temporarily reduce BB enough to annex more heathen provinces at the pre 1650 discount than your BB limit would otherwise permit.
Release a 10 province vassal. (-10 BB) Conquer 20 heathen provinces (+10 BB).
You now have 10 provinces more than before with no increase in BB.
Yes, there may be additional costs for (undiplomatic) annexation, but it's still 10 free provinces.

Is this also working with animists?:rolleyes:
 

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I was actually thinking more about diploannexing them back into the fold. It's a cent hit, but if it helps achieve the goal...

The main/original idea was to conquer Germany and then release germany as a puppet, then diploannex later on when they become crazy expensive.

Just something kicking around in my head.
 

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They only get the religion of their master if it is a heathen religion. Heretics get their own.
 

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FEEDBACK

OrangeYoshi - Very funny ;)

Kentti - It's teh kitten not me!

OrangeYoshi - Perhaps I coud develop the Kongo as a penal colony for Walloon nationalists.

Starfury - I get them but I've never used one

Lord Strange - I was slightly excitable when that advisor arrived :)

Montague - True, the French army's new units are mainly recruited in Persia and the Middle East now.

aldriq - Yes Yoshi'd again. Mongolia is for access to Manchuria.

Sirveri, Johan11, Starfury, sprites, Kartos - Too gamey for my taste although there's probably a cunning plan that would work.

Nodscouterr, L Lawliet - That's interesting although I don't think I've ever released anyone :D

Enewald - I'm glad someone commented on that - it's got to be pretty unusual!

 

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Chapter Thirty Five

Late in March 1618 Assam somehow gets out of its war with Madurai for cash instead of annexation. I’m far from happy with this but the schedule for war still ticks forward.

By 1st May BB is 3.05

War with Vijayanagar

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Everybody honours the call, BB is 4.05 / 18.00

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Notice Ming isn’t alliance leader. The enemy alliance does have a lot of ships, too many to tackle with current forces in the Indian Ocean.

1st June, both Huron and Kongo are DOWed – both are pagan so no BB cost.

Peace with Kongo – September 1618

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With no money left they’ll be annexed in the next war.

Maharastra peaces out days later for 225 ducats. I don’t want their provinces yet.

Malwa annexed – October 1618

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BB jumps to 4.91 / 18.00

Huron annexed - February 1619

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They’d run out of cash.

Punjab annexed – February 1619

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BB is now 6.42 / 18.00

A new King - 6th October 1619

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Another very good diplomacy rated monarch. In the background you can see Ming is in trouble although I’m struggling in SE Asia as high attrition and large numbers of enemy troops are slowing progress.

Yet another boundary dispute to stockpile for 1650

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March 1620 Aceh make a real mess out of the land I was aiming for!

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Peace with Ming – June 1620

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This is 10 uncored provinces for 5BB pushing further into Burma and grabbing much of Manchuria in preparation for the next war in the Far East.

BB is now 9.32 / 18.00

Peace with Madurai – January 1621

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BB is now 9.92 / 18.00. War exhaustion is 3.51 not too high but a slight concern. The gains from this deal are all about leaving Madurai with borders on weaker states in the Indian sub-continent.

Post War India

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Boundary dispute with Denmark – I’ll have to intervene next time there’s an HRE call to arms against the Danes.

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Boundary dispute in India

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Maharastra managed to break and spawn an OPM revolter, not a good look for a formerly two province nation! At least newly independent Deccan is Sunni so there is some potential for war.

January 1624, war exhaustion has passed and BB is down to 5.28 / 18.00. Ready to annex Kongo is DOWed as are the Aztecs. The map of Central America seems to change every year.

Kongo annexed - March 1624

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There’s no real subtlety to this, raid a pagan for cash then annex.

Boundary dispute with OPM Assam - summer 1624

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This offers the opportunity to knock out Assam as cheaply as I can. That will make those two Madurai provinces very vulnerable to French ambitions…

With the Aztecs occupied in July 1624 it’s time to extend the war to Zapotec…

Zapotec disappointingly only have 1500 ducats while the Aztecs only 1925. As penniless pagans annexation looms in the near future.

Yet another Boundary dispute in October 1624

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A core on OPM Nepal – I’ll probably annex soon rather than hope that Ming somehow take them out.