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How did your opinion of the song change once you received lyrical clarification?
It made me reflect upon how different it would have been if Otis Redding had been talking with his baby over Single Ladies and Coffee rather than Cigarettes and Coffee.
I don't think I have a limited Worldview. I'm perfectly aware what countries exist around the World and also is acquainted with the language and culture of several of them. I'm also perfectly aware that not all countries are like Scandinavia. How can that be called a limited Worldview? And since when have I been dismissing non Danish things just because they were non Danish?
But I'm not pretentious. And Copenhageners really are feeling they are better than everybody else. Guess that probably is an intrinsic property for all capitals, since afaik people in other capitals around the World are the same.
If something relatively minor happens in Copenhagen it will be national news merely because it happened in Copenhagen. If it happens everywhere else it will at most be regional news and most likely just local news. If the weather is crappy in Copenhagen then suddenly the entire country has crappy weather. If some problem crops up in Copenhagen then it's national news and a crisis, when the same problem crops up everywhere else the people experiencing it are told to pinch their teeth together and stop complaining. There has been several examples of that. E.g the travel card which has had huge problems (and is a really poor solution); when the non capital regions started implementing it and people complained en masse they were just told to suck it up and that there were no problems and they were just imagining things. Then it was introduced in Copenhagen, the same problems persisted (funnily enough) and suddenly it was important national news and the politicians were queuing up with promises to solve these problems ASAP.
How is that not Copenhageners being extremely pretentious? And why am I not allowed to criticise them? Especially given I'm not pretentious myself.
Yes; why wouldn't it be? You think they just wrote some Danish lyrics and a score for the show instead of using an already existing song. Now how they came across this one is quite a conundrum given that it's rather obscure---especially to non Danes.THE TROLL SONG IS REAL?!
The Reich Archive doesn't employ trolls; neither in reality nor in that Christmas Calender. In fact IIRC there are no trolls in that Christmas Calender; it's the fourth Pyrus Christmas Calender which has trolls; that's from 2000 whereas the one this song is from is from 1994. If you want I can try and see whether I can find the actual troll song from that fourth Pyrus. (It also had a dragon and was in 3d; though the 3d glasses they sold for it didn't work.
I at least couldn't see any 3d effect on the TV.It's a song from a 1994 Christmas Calender which South Park for some reason has been using.
How do you know that it's not Danish? Because it could very well have been; it is perfectly Danish words. They just don't have any meaning. It's part of the tradition of how to traditionally make song (especially children ones); have a refrain with some catchy words which don't have a particular meaning.You don't watch South Park, I presume?
It's a track used whenever Denmark comes up in the series. I presumed it was fake, because "ching chang ching nutilai" isn't Danish at all.
And all the rest of the song is Danish lyrics which make perfect sense; it's a typical love story they sing about. A young nobleman is riding home to his chosen one at Christmas time. It's showing heavily and his horse ends up collapsing. His chosen one, a noblewoman, is sitting in a tower waiting for her loved one to arrive, but ends up waiting alone all night. The next morning they find the nobleman frozen to death in the snow. As the noblewoman hears this she throws herself from her tower and now they share a cloud in heaven.
So as mentioned your bog standard love story. Also another example of such a catchy refrain which doesn't have a particular meaning is the "simsalabim bambasala dusaladim" refrain from a song about a crow living a good life in a tree until a hunter comes and shoots it dead. That's one of the first songs Danish children learn.
Oh and the magic words simsalabim or sim sala bim actually originate from that refrain. In the early 20th century a Dane was the master magician in the US and enthralled millions with his shows and he had taken the simsalabim part of this song and said it every time he was about to do a magic trick which then made it stick as magic words in English.
Also you got the troll song refrain wrong: It's "tjing tjang tjing lutilej". And @Phibs you have it wrong in your sig. The part you're quoting is "tjing tjang lu, tjing tjang lu, tjing tjang tjing lutilej".
Ehm what? I don't think I've mentioned Christmas Calenders on more than at most two occasions. How's that connecting any topic to them? (Also you are aware that the South Park troll song was taken from the 1994 TV2 Christmas Calender "Alletiders Jul" which was the first Pyrus Christmas Calender? Hence mentioning that isn't connecting the topic to Christmas Calenders, since it already was from the start due to the song being from a Christmas Calender.)
Edit: It's of course "tjing tjang lu, tjing tjang lu, tjing tjang tjing lutilej"; not "tjing tjang lu, tjing tjang lu, thing tjang tjing lutilej". Bloody typo.
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I was exaggerating slightly, but you do link seemingly unrelated topics to aspects of contemporary Danish culture(e.g Christmas calendars) a hell of a lot more than anyone else links seemingly unrelated topics to aspects of their contemporary culture.
How's it a seemingly unrelated topic? Again the "troll song" actually is a song from a Christmas Calender, so it's not unrelated in any way.
Speaking of Christmas then I just discovered that the European Broadcasting Union is airing 14 hours of Christmas music today from all over the EBU. It changes between country each hour. The countries which music Christmas music are played from are Canada (no idea how that became European), Spain, Germany, Hungary, Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Sweden, Ireland, and the Netherlands. It can be found at your local EBU member (the national media) or you can listen to it here.
http://www.dr.dk/radio/live/p2/
@Gen. Skobelev you'll probably find this interesting.
It's just that it seems like a very specific and rare topic that would never come up, but you've mentioned Danish Christmas Calendars multiple times. If you were not on this forum, I think they'd come up absolutely never. But you've brought them up a minimum of three times in the last five months.
They've twice asked him to move out now, but you know how attached they get to their dimly lit subterranean spaces and diet of chewy archivists!
Christmas Calenders aren't a Danish thing; they are a Nordic thing. They exist all over the North. And I don't see how they wouldn't ever come up if I were on a different forum. Also pretty sure it has been relevant every time that I have brought them up. Like in this case where I mentioned that the troll song actually was a Christmas Calender song.
Who? There are no trolls in that Christmas Calender. The two main character nisser do live in the Reich Archive though; and so does the archive manager by the way. He found that he spent so much time managing the archive that he might as well move in permanently.
Who's been asked to more out? The nisser haven't and in fact pretty much no humans know about them existing. And the only one knowing the archive manager living in the Reich Archive is his secretary (and the nisser of course), so he hasn't been asked to move out either, since nobody knows he moved in in the first place.
Wagon, when are you in town this summer? There's cheap flights to Aarhus from London, and to retain my tenuous grip on reality I need to figure out whether you are actually like this in real life.
Which town? London?
Hotels aren't cheap in London afaik though. Anyway don't know at the moment whether I'd have the time to take a trip to London.
Like what?
And it sounds bad that you're going insane; I hope that you are getting proper help with that, since insanity is a really serious thing.
Must have been confusion on my part. I had assumed nisser were a sort of sub-species of troll.
Wait, are we trying to talk you down from a bad trip or is Wagonlitz simply too much for you?
More of the latter, though I imagine dropping peyote with Wagonlitz would be interesting for all parties involved.
I think that Torn might be on to something. There is no way a normal human being in a first-world country who regularly uses the Internet and interacts with native English speakers doesn't understand the idiom "I'm going insane."
I'll provide live updates for the meeting and subsequent interactions between the two of you upon 'litz's arrival.