Xenophobes all wrong

[Mithrantir]

Just some info on the definition of the word.
Xenophobe means that someone is afraid the aliens and is not willing to trust them or interact with them.
In that sense a xenophobe is not willing to accept an alien even as a slave.

So I believe it's right that xenophobes do not get a bonus for enslaving aliens. In fact they should get a minor hit in happiness imho for enslaving aliens.

I believe that empires that are planned to become slavers should never have the xenophobe or xenophile ethos as an available choice.

 

[Treybor]

It'd be nice to be xenophobic to only certain species... For example an empire that only was for the bugs but purged all others

Or a race that only hates the avians...

 

[Akka le Vil]

Can you not resettle them to some kind of "exile colony" that has only xenos on it?

Well it's a possibility, but it's clunky as hell (you need the room, it costs an arm and a leg in influence) and it's still not really fitting with the xenophobe concept "get out of our lawn".

Collectivist-Xenophobe-Militarist is the only combo that allows you to do what you want without issue. It gives you the most control over your empire by far imo.

This doesn't allow you to do what you want : if you enslave xenos, you still get a happiness penalty (you can purge them all you want though...).

 

[PauloPhenee]

Just some info on the definition of the word.
Xenophobe means that someone is afraid the aliens and is not willing to trust them or interact with them.
In that sense a xenophobe is not willing to accept an alien even as a slave.

So I believe it's right that xenophobes do not get a bonus for enslaving aliens. In fact they should get a minor hit in happiness imho for enslaving aliens.

I believe that empires that are planned to become slavers should never have the xenophobe or xenophile ethos as an available choice.

I know the word means that, but no homophobic IRL is actually afraid of homossexuals, they hate them. It's what we said earlier, Xenophobia can manifest in two ways, fear or hate. In the case of slavers it's clearly hate, they don't consider said group as people. And that has nothing to do with colectivism, is not thinking "we all have to do our part" it's more on the line of "f* you! You'll do everything!". And that reflection is what I think is currently missing. Clarke patch promisses to change something on xenophobia/xenophilia, let's wait and see.