You are probably right about that. I think that's the ONLY way to have your xenophobic species accept being able to live next to another one. They have to be slaves.
Xenophilia... any good?
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You are probably right about that. I think that's the ONLY way to have your xenophobic species accept being able to live next to another one. They have to be slaves.
It isn't a trait, it's an ethos.
Anyway, I imagine being Xenophilic will make diplomacy with everyone easier, and especially make forming Federations easier.
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pretty much all empires need a rough 3 species to be able to take over all worlds in their domain.
Say you play the blorg who love tropical and can tolerate continental and desert.
Those guys could have used the penguins: Ocean + continental, arctic. for great success.
They already had Continent + tropical, ocean racist birds
now for a primitive or otherwise conquereable Arid + desert, tundra and all worlds would be reasonably open.
That said the whole xenophobia thing isn't well understood so far. If it applies just to the same planet, well, then not very useful. All you do is keep the races on their own separate worlds and all are happy. Besides keeping them separate is kinda the point too when maximizing planetary access.
Furthermore a proper ruler makes sure the aliens are always kept equal (equally weak.. buahahaha!) by not favoring one of the aliens with all the colonization opportunities, but spread out as much as possible. the less there is a possibility for a unified front the better.
Say you play the blorg who love tropical and can tolerate continental and desert.
Those guys could have used the penguins: Ocean + continental, arctic. for great success.
They already had Continent + tropical, ocean racist birds
now for a primitive or otherwise conquereable Arid + desert, tundra and all worlds would be reasonably open.
That said the whole xenophobia thing isn't well understood so far. If it applies just to the same planet, well, then not very useful. All you do is keep the races on their own separate worlds and all are happy. Besides keeping them separate is kinda the point too when maximizing planetary access.
Furthermore a proper ruler makes sure the aliens are always kept equal (equally weak.. buahahaha!) by not favoring one of the aliens with all the colonization opportunities, but spread out as much as possible. the less there is a possibility for a unified front the better.
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I'm aware of that. I'm responding to the post about what's tge benefit of being a xenophile. Also, if you are a xenophobe and conquer a species and make them a vassal, would your population be angry that you share an empire together. I say no, so long as they aren't living together on one planet. I think the only way to make them being able to live together is if the conquered species were enslaved to work the farms and factories on a host planet.
The current listing of modifiers in the Wiki is not updated. They have changed modifiers for the other ethoses, so I assume they have done the same for Xenophile, probably with diplomatic bonuses. It will probably receive some tweaks until release, so it's basically wait and see what it does exactly. The 10% not get unhappiness from xeno neighbours is not bad if you start uplifting, assimilating, or migrating.
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That's not exactly true. You can later on terraform planets, manipulate the genes of your main (and perhaps only) species and you can choose adaptive as a trait. So it is possible to do it with just one species the whole game.
A proper ruler in a xenophil society maybe. At my guess conformists will not care much since it could help the greater good to supress aliens.
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It gives you the smug high moral ground and nothing of substance.Like in real life.
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Your ethos also affects what policies are available and the likelyhood of getting different techs. Allowing alien leaders is likely a xenophile only policy and there are propably others too. At the very you are propably more likely to get the tech that allows it as xenophile.
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pretty much all empires need a rough 3 species to be able to take over all worlds in their domain.
Say you play the blorg who love tropical and can tolerate continental and desert.
Those guys could have used the penguins: Ocean + continental, arctic. for great success.
They already had Continent + tropical, ocean racist birds
now for a primitive or otherwise conquereable Arid + desert, tundra and all worlds would be reasonably open.
That said the whole xenophobia thing isn't well understood so far. If it applies just to the same planet, well, then not very useful. All you do is keep the races on their own separate worlds and all are happy. Besides keeping them separate is kinda the point too when maximizing planetary access.
Furthermore a proper ruler makes sure the aliens are always kept equal (equally weak.. buahahaha!) by not favoring one of the aliens with all the colonization opportunities, but spread out as much as possible. the less there is a possibility for a unified front the better.
Xenophobic empires can turn to robots or bioengineering, so there are definitely ways for such factions to spread nearly everywhere.
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Xenophile actually looks quite powerful for militarists who will be adding large numbers of alien species to their empire. My issue is that it doesn’t seem very useful for pacifists, particularly if I don’t intend to conquer planets.
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As said above, Xenophilia is useful for four reasons.
Happiness bonuses/reduction of penalties for a diverse set of races co-inhabiting the same world, which allows both easier pop growth and species specialization wherein you use the strongest workers and warriors for their roles, best farmers for another and best scientists for their own.
Diplomacy bonus, Xenophilic empires can get along very easily, and form coalitions especially pacificist and xenophilic empires.
Assimilation, Going along with the happiness thing, if you have net negative ethos divergence other pops will slowly become xenophilic, this has the effect of both increasing your own happiness, and that of your conquered/assimilated (via vasselage or whatever) subjects. It may also weigh the tech tree slightly so you can get alien leaders etc we just don't know about that yet.
Finally Xenophilia like all ethos gives unique event choices, and so it may very well pay off when it comes to events where you encounter strange, and 'different' aliens allowing you to gain benefits from, and co-operate with aliens when other empires simply cannot.
Happiness bonuses/reduction of penalties for a diverse set of races co-inhabiting the same world, which allows both easier pop growth and species specialization wherein you use the strongest workers and warriors for their roles, best farmers for another and best scientists for their own.
Diplomacy bonus, Xenophilic empires can get along very easily, and form coalitions especially pacificist and xenophilic empires.
Assimilation, Going along with the happiness thing, if you have net negative ethos divergence other pops will slowly become xenophilic, this has the effect of both increasing your own happiness, and that of your conquered/assimilated (via vasselage or whatever) subjects. It may also weigh the tech tree slightly so you can get alien leaders etc we just don't know about that yet.
Finally Xenophilia like all ethos gives unique event choices, and so it may very well pay off when it comes to events where you encounter strange, and 'different' aliens allowing you to gain benefits from, and co-operate with aliens when other empires simply cannot.
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