What good is Xenophilia? The only modifier it grants is -10% xenophobia. What kind of benefit is that?
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Xenophilia... any good?
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Helps keep heterogeneous empires together more effectively presumably. I imagine through happiness buffs and removing debuffs. This will directly improve your resource output and reduce rebellions.
Also it makes you the "good guys" so to speak.
Also it makes you the "good guys" so to speak.
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I imagine it's good for reducing tensions if your empire becomes very diverse with many different species. So it helps with stability. Being xenophobic and having multiple species in the empire living together would cause nothing but headaches and rebellions.
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That helps. I just imagined it as a trait that makes you hate xenophobes, which doesn't really seem necessarily beneficial. I like your interpretations better. Lol
If you invade, you can easly accept your news friends. You dont need to purge the xeno for have a good empire.
You can allow emigration, and see your pop colonize some foreign country, and after, you can easly invade them and have very efficient worlds.
2 xenopholia can easly ally.
You can allow emigration, and see your pop colonize some foreign country, and after, you can easly invade them and have very efficient worlds.
2 xenopholia can easly ally.
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What about vassalized empires? Do they count as part of your empire, as in xenophobic pops hating to "share" an empire with them? That is, if I want to build an militaristic empire that likes to vassalize stuff but doesn't necessarily plan to migrate any new aliens to its own planets, do I gain much benefit from being xenophile?
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I think you need it to for example allow leaders/scientists/admirals of other races and that can be beneficial.
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With Xenophilia, conquering other species becomes more useful (as you can more easily and more efficiently use their POPs). With Xenophobia, you would need to use slavery feature to get something in return.
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Thank you all. I was debating between xenophile and militarist (along with individualist and materialist, charasmatic and quick learners and indirect democracy) for my first human civilization. I think I'm going to go with xenophile for my first play through. So hyped!
Not sure, but I'd imagine as long as your people don't share worlds, they'll be okay. I remember in the Blorg Stream when they integrated the xenophobic bird people into the nation they were very unhappy. Luckily over time a new generation adopted the ways of the Blorg over time. But the host empire is fanatic xenophile.
But I imagine xenophobic empires would be fine with vassals... just don't mix them on the same world. Essentially maintaining a policy of species-based segregation.
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I imagine it offers some bonuses that aren't listed on the wiki yet. Just like how Xenophobia gives cheaper claiming of alien planets during peace deals, and like how Pacifists gives you extra diplomats.
I imagine Xenophilia gives something like "Cheaper influence cost of joining Federations" or something. Or perhaps faster uplifting of pre-spacefaring species?
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Even if we don't have the exact figures (I suppose it will be subject to fine tuning before the official release) I guess that a Xenophobe pop will also have a big happiness hit sharing a planet (or having adjacent tiles?) with an alien race, perhaps even fully enslaved.
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Unless you used slaves.. which seems to be the major benefit of xenophobia.
Essentially, it seems like they kind of do the same thing in terms of making your empire able to tolerate alien pops, it's just a question of whether you want the increased productivity but increased risk associated with xenoslavery, or the general all round multispecies chillness associated with xenophilia.
Bear in mind that in both cases the benefit is that different pops will have different traits, so being able to import a species which gets a big bonus to food production and have them work in your farms, for example, would be a pretty significant benefit, above and beyond how generally cool it is to have a multi-species empire.
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Xenophile is the exact opposite of xenophobic. With the Xenophile trait your pops are happy about sharing worlds with other species.