in my new game by 2250ish I have vassalized 1/3rd or more of a 1000 system galaxy with 0 wars just asking peacefully. Xenophile Militarist Authoritarian, Imperial government, Diplomatic Corps and Free Haven.
Xenophile is now OP?
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Peaceful Vassalization is broken at the moment, it's not so much a Xenophile bug as it is that there's a modifier missing from the negotiation that stops other Empires taking your power into account when you propose subjugation.
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It always has been.
No need for xenophile, just having enought envoys is enought. Can get from civics or ascension perk.
But peaceful vassalization is broken/easy to abuse. You can have inferiour fleet and still get vassals with enought optionion. Then you can propose Integration acceptance. All without single shot. Sun Tzu would be proud.
But seriously, the prospect of integration should be more disliked by empires. And weight of fleet power (or diplo power in general) should be higher when deciding the deal acceptance.
Vassals are assertive when it somes in sharing their resources, but integration is no problem.
No need for xenophile, just having enought envoys is enought. Can get from civics or ascension perk.
But peaceful vassalization is broken/easy to abuse. You can have inferiour fleet and still get vassals with enought optionion. Then you can propose Integration acceptance. All without single shot. Sun Tzu would be proud.
But seriously, the prospect of integration should be more disliked by empires. And weight of fleet power (or diplo power in general) should be higher when deciding the deal acceptance.
Vassals are assertive when it somes in sharing their resources, but integration is no problem.
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Yeah I noticed I was able to get my first couple vassals with almost no power difference. well I'll have fun with it for this game til its fixed lol. already midgame and I havent gone to war yet, but probably will soon due to a very stubborn empire bordering my scholarium vassal who wont peacefully submit.
The entire vassalization system is FUBAR at the moment. Bugs, glitches, exploits, and modifiers that are set literally 10x higher than they should be which makes huge swathes of the system nonfunctional.
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In addition to peaceful subjugation being too easy, the bug that makes Tracking not work at all makes going to war very unattractive right now. Hoping that bug will prompt a hotfix within the week because I don't like seeing ships locked in battle for months not dying.
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Oh yikes I guess overlord is more messy than I thought, oh well hopefully it will be playable in a week or two.
See my new post about war and vassals. its far worse than you think.
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Yeah I hear you, thing is I can just avoid vassals until they are fixed, avoiding broken tracking however is impossible.