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I've seen the internet, and I don't care for it. If fanatic xenophilia means unbridled zoophilia, then xenophobes have more of a leg to stand on.
So you do not get the difference between a Sentient being and a Animal?
 

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Did anyone read my original post? The fact I mentioned Genestealers and infiltration seems to have gone unnoticed.
Infiltration would be Espionage. To wich the closest equivalent is a Criminal Megacorp right now.

The rest was just enabling Hybrid species in more generalized circumstances, or did I get that wrong?
 

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So you do not get the difference between a Sentient being and a Animal?

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Forget it. He's rolling.

(And apparently likes biological ascension for his empires.)
 

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If xeno compatibility can be turned into a species trait, we can play our favourite space gene theives.
I think, that I've understood your idea and it has potential. The thing is, that I would change a fundamental game-design-decision before since there's the circumstance, that after any "what-ever", (which increases the trait-point-limit of your species), you have already access to pretty any trait you want, which means, that there's no need to "hunt" / "steal" for specific traits. This is (probably) also why such features like the self-modification of a species or the current xeno-compatibility aren't that well received since they're random processes without any control of the player. What I would change, is something along the line, that before I'm able to modify my species with a desired trait X, I have to have "access" to an actual species with this trait X (before) and "access" can mean something along the line via conquest, migration or your special idea via "hunting" / "stealing".
 

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As a trait its still problematic. You end up with 2*(N-1) races instead of N*(N-1) races, which is a huge improvement but still pretty much crazy for purposes of bio-manipulation.

If people actually wanted the N*(N-1) race stew, they could gene-mod everyone to be compatible.

Overall, I'd say its a good idea that won't really work quite right until they fix the current situation where everyone except xenophobes has a million races by default and is also a xenophile. I also like this idea because it would mean that non-xenophiles could be compatible.
 

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I think, that I've understood your idea and it has potential. The thing is, that I would change a fundamental game-design-decision before since there's the circumstance, that after any "what-ever", (which increases the trait-point-limit of your species), you have already access to pretty any trait you want, which means, that there's no need to "hunt" / "steal" for specific traits. This is (probably) also why such features like the self-modification of a species or the current xeno-compatibility aren't that well received since they're random processes without any control of the player. What I would change, is something along the line, that before I'm able to modify my species with a desired trait X, I have to have "access" to an actual species with this trait X (before) and "access" can mean something along the line via conquest, migration or your special idea via "hunting" / "stealing".

In 40k, Genestealers infiltrate a society by pulling the good old xenomorph "inject my genes in you against your will" for subversion and to take over planets. The idea is to create hybrids that would be loyal to you (xeno-compatability already does half of this). You'd become a very subversive empire and rely less on war and more on trying to spread your gribbles across the galaxy. The Hybrids would be locked to not hybridize with anyone else.
 

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Infiltration would be Espionage. To wich the closest equivalent is a Criminal Megacorp right now.

The rest was just enabling Hybrid species in more generalized circumstances, or did I get that wrong?
The idea is to be able to infiltrate by not being a mega corp. The hybrids would be essentially a tool to take planets from a rebellion instead of trying to fight wars. Maybe have it as apart of a Hivemind as a restriction. Look up genestealers from 40k for the idea.
 

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In 40k, Genestealers infiltrate a society by pulling the good old xenomorph "inject my genes in you against your will" for subversion and to take over planets. The idea is to create hybrids that would be loyal to you (xeno-compatability already does half of this). You'd become a very subversive empire and rely less on war and more on trying to spread your gribbles across the galaxy. The Hybrids would be locked to not hybridize with anyone else.
You'd have to create espionage as feature first before you could even consider allowing a specialized version of espionage.

So you do not get the difference between a Sentient being and a Animal?
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Any xeno that wants to have sex with another xeno that's not even of their same portrait type, really needs to be examined for space madness.
 

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A hole is a hole dude, we're going captain Kirk up in here sans space herpes. Besides, xenos are cute and cuddly.
That's absolutely disgusting. Also, not all species reproduce sexually, so that doesn't even make sense. Fungoids and Plantoids don't even have sex. Molluscoids aren't guaranteed to have distinct genders or even to remain that gender throughout their life. Arthropoids are basically insects, so their reproduction methods are as varied as at least real life ones are.
Maybe you'd have better luck with humanoids, mammalians. reptilians, or avians, but that isn't certain either. Your "equipment" might not even be shaped properly. For example the mechanics of Duck sexual reproduction is as weird as it is disturbing.

Anyone seriously suggesting that sexual reproduction with xenos would be a good thing has clearly stared WAY too long into the abyss.
 

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That's absolutely disgusting. Also, not all species reproduce sexually, so that doesn't even make sense. Fungoids and Plantoids don't even have sex. Molluscoids aren't guaranteed to have distinct genders or even to remain that gender throughout their life. Arthropoids are basically insects, so their reproduction methods are as varied as at least real life ones are.
Maybe you'd have better luck with humanoids, mammalians. reptilians, or avians, but that isn't certain either. Your "equipment" might not even be shaped properly. For example the mechanics of Duck sexual reproduction is as weird as it is disturbing.

Anyone seriously suggesting that sexual reproduction with xenos would be a good thing has clearly stared WAY too long into the abyss.
First question upon any first contact should always be "can I have sex with it"

But then again, I'm a xenophile megacorp so hedonistic debauchery is my philosophy.
 

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First question upon any first contact should always be "can I have sex with it"

But then again, I'm a xenophile megacorp so hedonistic debauchery is my philosophy.
Isn't that why robots are invented? I mean really, the megacorps go to all that effort of creating the perfect robot for your sexual needs and you squander your time by chasing after fungoids. If that's not depravity, then nothing is. Do your patriotic duty and buy a sexbot produced by domestic corporations produced for domestic consumption. Encouraging sexual relations with xenos is like encouraging space communism, and we all know how that ended in tears.
 

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The idea is to be able to infiltrate by not being a mega corp.
And that requires Espionage first.

Any xeno that wants to have sex with another xeno that's not even of their same portrait type, really needs to be examined for space madness.
Love...finds a way.

That's absolutely disgusting. Also, not all species reproduce sexually, so that doesn't even make sense. Fungoids and Plantoids don't even have sex. Molluscoids aren't guaranteed to have distinct genders or even to remain that gender throughout their life.
You know, reproduction happens after a relationship.
And relationships are not exclusively about sex.
 

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And that requires Espionage first.


Love...finds a way.


You know, reproduction happens after a relationship.
And relationships are not exclusively about sex.
Yes, I'm sure captain Kirk was very interested in having a relationship will all the blue, green, and purple women he slept with.
And if we're talking about love now, there are many ways to love a person (if xenos should be called that) without ever having any kind of sexual relations with them.
 

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Yes, I'm sure captain Kirk was very interested in having a relationship will all the blue, green, and purple women he slept with.
Nope, Kirk was just looking for one night stands while using protection.

At tops he had one child. With a Human woman. And it was not the result of accidentalyl forgetting protection, but having had a relationship before.