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Tokie

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I am trying to change the succession law for my massive ERE empire and it seems almost impossible. I have medium crown law so I know my direct vassals will not be fighting each other. However my dukes are fight revoke wars with their own vassals(and I have many many dukes!), and they are taking forever because they are just sitting there not doing anything as they lack the manpower for siege.

I feel absolutely powerless to do anything as I can't revoke a contested duke title. Is there anything I can do to speed up vassal wars process?
 

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I think the only way to do this is with money.
You could gift one of the vassals lots of money so he can buy mercs or you could assasinate the claimatant if it's a war to claim a title.
 

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Paradox needs to seriously just delete that requirement, or allow you to participate in (if not by diplomacy demand an end to) these wars. As it stands there are far too many exclusions to the 'vassals may not start wars with each other' clause, and too many of those wars are long stalemates.
 

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I've run into this problem. Some of these wars drag on for years. Worse, it's not uncommon for a new one to start days after the last one ended. The AI is waiting to trigger something, and the second the war ends and it's able to do so it takes action before you can jump in to do what you need to do. I'm not sure there's anything to be done about it. Any solution is likely to be worse than the problem.
 

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They should alter the plots so that at medium crown authority or above the option for war doesn't exist. Instead the matter is brought to you to decide. Any option they give you should have honest advantages and disadvantages.

Perhaps giving the claimant the title reduces every direct vassal opinion of you by 5 or 10 but enforcing the status quo gives everyone in your court -10 relations. Or revolts are more likely to happen. I'm sure there are other ideas to make it work, but inner kingdom/empire war should not be allowed on medium or above except for civil war against the highest level siege.
 

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For lack of a better solution I've found that bodysurfing over to the involved parties and offering a surrender is possibly the quickest solution. It sucks having to essentially cheat, but there's no elegant or rapid options at the moment.
 

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Paradox needs to seriously just delete that requirement, or allow you to participate in (if not by diplomacy demand an end to) these wars. As it stands there are far too many exclusions to the 'vassals may not start wars with each other' clause, and too many of those wars are long stalemates.

I strongly disagree. Thius requerement make it more dificult to chance succession low in big empire - how it should be. Big empire slow and dificult to change.
 

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I strongly disagree. Thius requerement make it more dificult to chance succession low in big empire - how it should be. Big empire slow and dificult to change.
I agree with this to a point, and it should be very troublesome indeed to change your succession law for an empire. I think the methods they are using to make it difficult to change succession law for larger realms would be better implemented in a different way so that it wasn't so difficult to actually change the law, but perhaps that the penalties for doing so are much higher to the point where you're almost definitely going to face a lot of rebellions. As it stands at the moment, when you can change the law you get an opinion penalty, but if you are playing the game sensibly and keeping everyone happy with gifts etc, this rarely has a massive impact.