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angelosnau

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I would like to see a world war wednesday in which the players will only use counters (NATO or paradox or both preferably-each for half of the time).
 
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I hope that one day your wish is granted
 
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Would you like to see them playing on low quality hardware? You can disable the 3D models, 3D cities, shadows etc for performance reason, if your computer can't cope with it. ;)

BTW there is only Paradox counters. I suppose you mean the standard Paradox counter with NATO icons on them?
 
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My computer can easily cope, I can't. Counters only will be a beautiful spectacle. Just for units,not for non-moving objects (I'm happy with those).
 
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Which is the icon on the counter. It's the same counter.
 

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There are no HOI3 style counters. What we have is HOI4 counters with the option to make the icons nato-style. This actually makes the counters far more useful than HOI3 as we now get visual feedback on it's equipment, org, the number of divisions and we can chose what icon we want for a given division template.

We're also able to turn off the 3d models which we know PDS didn't really want to do so I'm just going to quietly enjoy this happy middle ground (which imo looks to be better than what people originally wanted).
 
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They almost certainly won't. Daniel said that he just couldn't play with counters because he didn't know what the NATO symbols meant. It was during one of the Japan WWWs.
 
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What exactly is the difference between the two?
Here is a visualisation of the difference.
CounterDiscussion.jpg
 
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I'll try it with models on, because if I recall correctly that is designed to provide extra information to the player regarding stance and movement. But I love the option, because I really dislike the 'toy soldiers' look. Thank you to Paradox for giving us the option of turning them off.

It's curious: For CK2 and EUIV I like the models. For the *early* part of V2 I doo too, but from around 1900 they just feel *wrong* to me.
 
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