WWW - capture planes from opponent?

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Something just came to my attention. In the 10th WWW video from Youtube at 38:09 Daniel is scrolling past some planes as he wants to create a new airwing from his reserves. I spotted some naval bombers on his reserve list and i am positive Daniel in an earlier WWW video said that all of his naval bombers had died and he was not producing any.
In this new video 10th video Daniel actually says

"This is planes that i have taken from my opponents".

I thought capture of equipment was not in the game?:eek:
 
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gamehappy

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does that apply to ships or only to air-force and infantry/tanks/planes...imagine italy or germany controlling a large part of the french navy specially the germans using them as commerce raiders or to invade England as Churchill feared
 

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Atleast ships arent captureable. They "flee" the country before it capitulate to refuse the enemy capturing the ships, as they historically did. The dutch and norwegian merchant fleets are a good example of that. Or of course they get sunk by their country to prevent them falling into enemy hands like the german fleet for example.

As for planes at 38:08 on Part 10 of WWW when he scrolls through the list of planes they are actually russian planes, yes. Pe-8, LBSh, SB-2m etc. Only the 71 do-22 are actually german planes (naval bombers) and the rest are captured soviet ones.

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Capturing ships has been discussed here before, but the consensus seems to be that capturing ships isn't realistic as it's too easy to just scuttle them to prevent capture.
 

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what about a small amount of ships that were captured while the germans captured a few that required a lot of repair
Operation Lila was a failure. The French destroyed 77 vessels, including three battleships, seven cruisers, 15 destroyers, 13 torpedo boats, six sloops, 12 submarines, nine patrol boats, 19 auxiliary ships, one school ship, 28 tugs and four cranes. Thirty-nine small ships were captured, most of them sabotaged and disarmed. Some of the major ships were ablaze for several days, and oil polluted the harbour so badly that it would not be possible to swim there for two years.

Several submarines ignored orders to scuttle and chose to defect to French North Africa: Casabianca and Marsouin reached Algiers, Glorieux reached Oran. Iris reached Barcelona. Vénus eventually scuttled in the entrance of Toulon harbour. One surface ship, Leonor Fresnel, managed to escape and reach Algiers.

General Charles de Gaulle heavily criticised the Vichy admirals for not ordering the fleet to flee to Algiers. The Vichy regime lost its last token of power, as well as its credibility with the Germans, with the fleet. While the German Naval War Staff were disappointed, Adolf Hitler considered that the elimination of the French fleet sealed the success of Case Anton.[2]

Most of the cruisers were salvaged by the Italians, either to restore them as fighting ships or for scrap. The cruisers Jean de Vienne and La Galissonnière were renamed FR11 and FR12, respectively, but their repair was prevented by Allied bombing and their use would have been unlikely, given the Italians' chronic shortage of fuel. Even the light destroyer Le Hardi (renamed FR37) and another four of the same class as Le Hardi were salvaged: FR32 (ex-Corsaire), FR33 (ex-Epée), FR34 (ex-Lansquenet), FR35 (ex-Fleuret).

The main guns from the scuttled battleship Provence were later removed and used in a former French turret battery at Saint-Mandrier-sur-Mer, guarding the approaches to Toulon, to replace original fortress guns, sabotaged by their French crews. Mounting four 340mm guns, in 1944 this fortification duelled with numerous Allied battleships for over a week before being silenced.[3]