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I think him the more likely varulv than AOK, until the England - Germany game is over I will pass no judgement no further
 

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1) When's deadline?
2) Are you sure you're the sorc, AOK.11? (coz details like this are pretty important to a wulf)
 

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AOK.11, I know you're probably the hunter anyway, but I had no real alternative but to trust you were the sorc, unless I would TIE it and hope for the best
 

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Unless anyone has any objections, I'd like to GM the next Micro, and allow pm's. I'm not necessarily saying they must be brought; in certainly it adds something to the game, working behind the scenes is an integral part of Lite and Big and would give the game another dimension, but a no pm game also has it's benefits, being a bit like poker where everyone has access to the same information except player's roles/cards and therefore a player's ability to sway the crowd is vital; I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer as to which is best.
But I think at the very least we need to try out a no-pm game
 

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I think you should also allow PMS, that'd liven debate up a bit.
 

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Unless anyone has any objections, I'd like to GM the next Micro, and allow pm's. I'm not necessarily saying they must be brought; in certainly it adds something to the game, working behind the scenes is an integral part of Lite and Big and would give the game another dimension, but a no pm game also has it's benefits, being a bit like poker where everyone has access to the same information except player's roles/cards and therefore a player's ability to sway the crowd is vital; I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer as to which is best.

Agreed in large part. I do not agree with no PMs having benefits. I see none. This game would have been much more interesting if EURO could have called my bluff with a PM instead of basically saying that he was the Seer in the thread and thus getting killed. PMs are an essential part of online werewolf. Who knows what happens then. It would have been more interesting regardless.

We do not play real life werewolf here. We play online, and PMs are an essential part of that. I will repeat what I said earlier, and that is that micro has potential with a good roster, but PMs are a necessity. Micro can recreate the last few chaotic days of a good Lite game, but PMs must be allowed.

Marty wants PMs. AOK wants PMs. EURO wants PM's. Jonti wants PMs.

Case closed. I will not try micro again unless they are allowed.
 

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Agreed in large part. I do not agree with no PMs having benefits. I see none.
I'm just trying to be diplomatic here:p


We do not play real life werewolf here. We play online
100% agreed. Werewolf online is intrinsically better than RL WW, the reason they have things like no pm's is because it's simply not feasible to do so. No rules should be made because they ''imitate real life werewolf''

If there are other, gameplay related reasons to disallow pm's then yes we could consider it, but definitely not for the above reason
 

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100% agreed. Werewolf online is intrinsically better than RL WW, the reason they have things like no pm's is because it's simply not feasible to do so. No rules should be made because they ''imitate real life werewolf''

If there are other, gameplay related reasons to disallow pm's then yes we could consider it, but definitely not for the above reason

Real life werewolf has other things that would make the game interesting. Being able to look your opponent in the eye, watch his facial expressions, take note of his body language and tone of voice ect. Online werewolf does not have that kind of player interaction, but PMs make up for that and add alot more to the game.

Real life, face to face werewolf is a different game entirely and you simply cannot replicate that online. Online games make PMs a necessity in my view.

It would be something though to have a real life, face to face game with fellow Paradox Werewolf players. I would suck at it but it would be fun. :D
 

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Just do it now. The game is over.
I was over at family, and the drive back home (which takes over 2 hours) was just about to start, so I had to let you guys know the update would be late. I'm home now.
Update will be later[color]


Ok, color-tags are difficult on a phone ;)


Last Day


Eternaly_Lost the villager is lynched.

AOK. 11 the Sorceror and Marty99 the wolf enjoy a last night in town before they set out for new adventures.

BADDIE VICTORY
Marty99, Werewolf
AOK. 11, Sorceror

 

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working behind the scenes is an integral part of Lite and Big and would give the game another dimension, but a no pm game also has it's benefits, being a bit like poker where everyone has access to the same information except player's roles/cards and therefore a player's ability to sway the crowd is vital; I'm not sure if there's a definitive answer as to which is best.
But I think at the very least we need to try out a no-pm game

You might try, but I would suggest waiting a bit. This game is still new and need to fleshen out. People need to adapt to a different playing style. This is not Big, this is not Lite, this is Micro, and the most fundamental difference is that it has no PM's. If you remove that, you might as well just make it Lite again.

I think you should also allow PMS, that'd liven debate up a bit.

Indeed. Move to PM's and the debate in the thread dies out, leaving those who are not scanners with even less information to work on. In the end, Marty did not know who the sorc was, the wolf did hunt the seer after all, and he took his information with him to the grave. Out of fear of being hunted. Be serious, you have a 25% chance of being hunted. Outing at least insures everyone has your information.

Agreed in large part. I do not agree with no PMs having benefits. I see none. This game would have been much more interesting if EURO could have called my bluff with a PM instead of basically saying that he was the Seer in the thread and thus getting killed. PMs are an essential part of online werewolf. Who knows what happens then. It would have been more interesting regardless.

How would EURO have called your bluff in a PM? Would he PM you and say "I don't believe you. Bye" What would have happened next? He called your bluff in the thread, so the wolf, the hunter and the village could try to find out for themselves who m ight be speaking the thruth, especially since the wolf also knows who does speak the thruth about who the wolf is. If you move the debate to PM's, the other players will never know. There is no game for them left, except a random lynch or hunt.

We do not play real life werewolf here. We play online, and PMs are an essential part of that. I will repeat what I said earlier, and that is that micro has potential with a good roster, but PMs are a necessity. Micro can recreate the last few chaotic days of a good Lite game, but PMs must be allowed.

Marty wants PMs. AOK wants PMs. EURO wants PM's. Jonti wants PMs.

Case closed. I will not try micro again unless they are allowed.

You do not decide on the case. I don't want PM's, I think other players agree with me, but have not spoken out, or shown up in the thread. Also I think jonti was sarcastic (I think?) If you have problems with the fact that you have to develop new ways to play this different game, fine, then don't play. Although I would miss you. During this game, first I thought you were serious, but then I thought you were doing a brilliant ploy and actually using the PM-argument as a way to set the plot. I think you can be a great player, but you need to give this new way of playing a chance.

It would be something though to have a real life, face to face game with fellow Paradox Werewolf players. I would suck at it but it would be fun. :D

It is fun. I have player WW with other people (some on this forum as well). It is great fun, the same, but still different.
 
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Indeed. Move to PM's and the debate in the thread dies out, leaving those who are not scanners with even less information to work on. In the end, Marty did not know who the sorc was, the wolf did hunt the seer after all, and he took his information with him to the grave. Out of fear of being hunted. Be serious, you have a 25% chance of being hunted. Outing at least insures everyone has your information.

PMS = Pre Menstrual Syndrome
PMs = Private Messages

Hence the comment about it livening up the game
 

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PMS = Pre Menstrual Syndrome
PMs = Private Messages

Hence the comment about it livening up the game

Lol :)
But what do you think about the PM's, or do you keep out of the argument?