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Day 1, Night 2

You all decide to lynch Punkbob. He dies and the game goes on.
During the night Yakman is hunted.
 

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There's only one reason why Yakman would not want people to vote on me so badly:
He is the Seer and scanned me. I turned out not be the wolf. So, I'm either the Villager, Hunter or Sorcerer. Lynching someone who's known not to be the wolf is bad from a goodie point of view in this micro game.

Even if I was the sorcerer, if you lynch me now the wolf will have won, he'll reach parity after the lynching.
Basically, if the game is now left with the sorcerer and the wolf and me, I'm dead.
 

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Day 2

Very sorry, forgot the time...

You lynch Torn, but he is not the wolf... so Kaetje is eaten.

Baddie win

Roles:
Yakman - Seer
Punkbob - hunter
Torn - sorcerer
Kaetje - Villgare
Teep - Wolf
 

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Yeah, I knew that Teep was the wolf, it was pretty obvious.
One thing that I find quite game breaking though: There is absolutely no reason for the wolf to work together with the sorcerer. See, in this case, if Kaetje would have been lynched, Teep would still have won, but so would have I. There is no reason for the wolf not to vote the sorcerer, like in this game for example.
 

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Yeah, I knew that Teep was the wolf, it was pretty obvious.
One thing that I find quite game breaking though: There is absolutely no reason for the wolf to work together with the sorcerer. See, in this case, if Kaetje would have been lynched, Teep would still have won, but so would have I. There is no reason for the wolf not to vote the sorcerer, like in this game for example.
Funny, I didn't see you say it at the time...:D
 

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Yeah, I knew that Teep was the wolf, it was pretty obvious.
One thing that I find quite game breaking though: There is absolutely no reason for the wolf to work together with the sorcerer. See, in this case, if Kaetje would have been lynched, Teep would still have won, but so would have I. There is no reason for the wolf not to vote the sorcerer, like in this game for example.

Actually, you have won. Contrary to the other WW's, in this game the whole faction wins, even the dead players in that faction (or so I've understood from White Daimon's comment). So it doesn't matter if the wolf wouldn't work with you, as long as he can use the information you provide in the thread, you work to help your faction win.
 
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Actually, you have won. Contrary to the other WW's, in this game the whole faction wins, even the dead players in that faction (or so I've understood from White Daimon's comment). So it doesn't matter if the wolf wouldn't work with you, as long as he can use the information you provide in the thread, you work to help your faction win.
Yeah. Off course now I can't remember why I understood it to be so. But I think I read about a common tactic that involved the sorc committing suicide to acheive baddie win. Would be stupid if it didn't mean the sorc won as well, it certainly wouldn't be a common tactic.

EDIT: Found it
The existence of the hunter avoids the fact that otherwise, one the second day if the sorcerer were still alive, they would just say 'I'm the sorcerer, please lynch me and we (bad team) win'. Wit hthe hunter alive (or maybe alive), the bad team has to identify each other and kill the other, while the remaining villager has to be deceptive and claim to be evil!!
Same goes for goodies. Doesn't matter if you are alive in the end. If your team wins, you win.
 

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There's only one reason why Yakman would not want people to vote on me so badly:
He is the Seer and scanned me. I turned out not be the wolf. So, I'm either the Villager, Hunter or Sorcerer. Lynching someone who's known not to be the wolf is bad from a goodie point of view in this micro game.

Even if I was the sorcerer, if you lynch me now the wolf will have won, he'll reach parity after the lynching.
Basically, if the game is now left with the sorcerer and the wolf and me, I'm dead.
This post is actually quite interesting since it shows some of the differences in Micro and regular Lite.

Kaetje correctly guess that Yakman is the seer. She knows she is the villager, that means the remaining players are either

Wolf - Villager - Hunter or
Wolf - Villager - Sorceror

So she has to look at punkbob to try and guess his role, either hunter or sorc and from that there are 2 different strategies to winning.

a) Punkbob was a hunter, eg the other players are a wolf and a sorc. In this case claiming to be good is a very bad strategy, because the sorc will then say. "Okay, I believe you if I vote you then I win". The only way you can win in this scenario is if you get the sorcerer to vote the wolf. Therefore, you need to convince the sorcerer that you are the wolf and the other person is a goodie. Delightful deviance from the normal course of events :)

b) Punkbob was a sorcerer, eg the other players are a wolf a hunter. In this case you will win if either the wolf or you is lynched. So there are 2 strategies here. Either identify the hunter and convince him to lynch the wolf. Or the safe choice: Get yourself lynched :cool:
 

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Basically Yakman's insistence I was not to be voted on is what made me lose this game. There was no way I could convince the Sorcerer that I was the wolf.

THe only option I still had was to have made it a tie. Then there would be a random lynching, with a chance at wolf lynch.
 

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@GM: Could you update the first page to give the results especially of this thread is going to be merged with/added to by new games.