WWII military question

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Originally posted by Fallwall
What is the difference among:

1. Self-propelled gun
An artillery piece on a tracked platform, it can keep up with armoured columns and reach areas towed cannons cant
2. Tank Destroyer
A anti-tank gun permantly bolted on a cheap chassis used to protect infantry against tanks with mobility towed guns lack.
3. Assault Gun
Same as above but a large bore, low velocity seige weapon, generally anti-infantry, brought about due to street fighting mainly.
4. Tank
Now known as a MBT, main battle tank.
5. Artillery
BOOM

 

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I wouldn't call the chassis of a Jagdpanther "cheap"
your definition is closer to what the Germans called a Panzerjäger, an SP AT gun, although it's close to the US concept of a TD (US TD's were to tanks what battlecruisers were to battleships, basically)

German TD's were more an emergency solution for a kind of tank optimized for AT work in defensive situations.

And assault guns weren't brought about by street fighting. They appeared well before Stalingrad, to give attacking infantry a measure of reasonnable caliber direct fire support, wherever that was needed.

 

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how much did a Jadpanther (or jadtiger) cost? I'm guessing less than a panther or Tiger, but how much moolah did the Germans cough up for them?

 

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Sire dude i think your thinking of the stug111 in 1940, sure it was more like a assualt gun than a tank destroyer but in later versions that very same chassis got converted to tankdestroyers stug111. Only the stug42 in later times got reverted back to an assualt gun class.

Like i said apart from the 1940 abbarition, assualt guns came about due to street fighting requirements, but generally by the time they were implemented germany was on the defensive.

And yes even the jagdpanther was easier to manufacture, ie: cheaper than the MBT version.

 

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Originally posted by Belrick
Sire dude i think your thinking of the stug111 in 1940, sure it was more like a assualt gun than a tank destroyer but in later versions that very same chassis got converted to tankdestroyers stug111. Only the stug42 in later times got reverted back to an assualt gun class.

Like i said apart from the 1940 abbarition, assualt guns came about due to street fighting requirements, but generally by the time they were implemented germany was on the defensive.

And yes even the jagdpanther was easier to manufacture, ie: cheaper than the MBT version.

Being cheaper than something quite expensive isn't the same as being cheap.
And again, I'm not aware that the Stg III was designed specifically for street fighting - though it certainly was useful in that kind of situation, but more generally as an infantry support AFV, the "real" tanks being reserved for the Panzer divisions.

When the Germans met the T-34 and KV tanks, they scrambled to upgun across the board, and the Stg III F was one of their solutions.

As I said earlier, once the war started the frontiers between types became more and more blurred.

 

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I agree it did get blurred.