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Has anyone ever made an event to trigger WW1? I think it is rather lame to not have atleast the chance of te war starting in a GC or other Scenario tham the 1914 one. I know it would be a complex task, what with the alliances and all but if anyone knows of one out there can I have it please.

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There were so many things that led to WWI besides assassinating Franz Ferdinand that having enough of them happen in Victoria to justify a general war would be extremely difficult.

For one thing, there would have to be ways to avoid the path to war at every level, which means that almost all of the time a player committed to avoiding war should be able to do so.

For another, the "entangling alliances" which contributed to WWI might never happen due to the diplomatic relations between nations never reaching the level where any event to form them would fire - the French and British might have a problem in Africa in 1870 that prevents their becoming allies, and Russia might remain a part of the Three Emperors League so the Central Powers would include Prussia (which never formed into Germany), Austria (which had Hungary separate) and Russia.

Not quite the scenario of history as we know it. :)
 

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Anyway....I went ahead and made a basic first draft. Triggers etc need to be sorted as does info but heres what I came up with. I put it in the worldaffairs.txt file while I tested it.

}
event = {
id = 30017
random = no
country = AUS

trigger = {
exists = GER
}

name = "Assassination of Franz Ferdinand"
desc = "The Archduke has been assassinated by a serbian nationalist, what should be done about it?"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "Invade serbia! Lets Punish them!"
command = { type = war which = SER }

action_b = {
name = "Arrest and Execute the Culprit"
command = { type = relation which = SER value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30018
random = no
country = RUS

trigger = {
event = 30017
}

name = "Defender of the Balkans"
desc = "Austria has invaded Serbia, we, as the proclaimed defender of the Balkan states must intervene"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR!"
command = { type = war which = AUS }

action_b = {
name = "Maybe later"
command = { type = relation which = SER value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = 100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30019
random = no
country = GER

trigger = {
event = 30018
}

name = "Defence of Austria"
desc = "The Russians have declared war upon our Austrians allies, what should we do about it?"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR!"
command = { type = war which = RUS }
command = { type = war which = BEL }
command = { type = alliance which = AUS }

action_b = {
name = "Nah"
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30020
random = no
country = FRA

trigger = {
event = 30019
}

name = "The Great War"
desc = "In 1914 France joined the war on the same side as Russia to aide them against Germany and Austria"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR"
command = { type = war which = GER }
command = { type = war which = AUS }
command = { type = alliance which = RUS }

action_b = {
name = "No"
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30021
random = no
country = ENG

trigger = {
event = 30020
}

name = "The Great War"
desc = "Great Britain, honouring its guarantee of independence to Belgium, decided to aid Russia and France in their war against Germany and Austria"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR"
command = { type = war which = GER }
command = { type = war which = AUS }
command = { type = alliance which = RUS }
command = { type = alliance which = FRA }
command = { type = alliance which = BEL }

action_b = {
name = "Stay out of it"
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BEL value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30022
random = no
country = TUR

trigger = {
event = 30021
}

name = "The Great War"
desc = "The Ottoman empire chose sides in late 1914, joining the Central Powers in the war"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR"
command = { type = war which = FRA }
command = { type = war which = RUS }
command = { type = war which = ENG }
command = { type = alliance which = AUS }
command = { type = alliance which = GER }

action_b = {
name = "Stay out of it"
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30023
random = no
country = ITA

trigger = {
event = 30022
}

name = "The Great War"
desc = "Italy sides with Entente"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "WAR"
command = { type = war which = AUS }
command = { type = war which = GER }
command = { type = war which = TUR }
command = { type = alliance which = FRA }
command = { type = alliance which = ENG }

action_b = {
name = "Stay out of it"
command = { type = relation which = GER value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = 100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}
event = {
id = 30023
random = no
country = TUR

trigger = {
event = 30023
}

name = "The Great War"
desc = "Europe is in tatters with War, should we intervene and help our friends?"

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1914 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1920 }

action_a = {
name = "Intervene"
command = { type = war which = AUS }
command = { type = war which = GER }
command = { type = war which = TUR }
command = { type = alliance which = FRA }
command = { type = alliance which = ENG }

action_b = {
name = "Stay out of it"
command = { type = relation which = GER value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = AUS value = -100 }
command = { type = prestige value = -100 }
}


It works generally ok. Remember this is just a quick rough version.
 

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I imagine if you had the right conditions between Austria and Serbia...Austria controlling Serbian national provinces, for example...you could have an "Assassination of Archduke Francis Ferdinand" event, and let it go from there. If Russia is guarenteeing the independence of Serbia, it will go to war with Austria.

With the right alliances in order, you could have something resembling WWI, but you shouldn't have an event to bring each combatant in.

Of course, there could be events to set these alliances up, such as the Three Emperor's League (with an event to have Russia leave it), the Franco-Russian entente, Italy's defensive alliance with Austria/Germany (Italy shouldn't get involved therefore is Austria is the aggressor). I'm not sure about Britain, though. The treaty it used to go to war with Germany was the Treaty of London, signed in 1836! I'm not sure Britain will still be guarenteeing the independence of Belgium by then, but perhaps if conditions are right (Britain signed the treaty early on, has friendly relations with Belgium and France, and no alliance with Germany), an event could be worked to bring Britain into the fold.
 

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Katmandu Wizard said:
I'm not sure about Britain, though. The treaty it used to go to war with Germany was the Treaty of London, signed in 1836! I'm not sure Britain will still be guarenteeing the independence of Belgium by then, but perhaps if conditions are right (Britain signed the treaty early on, has friendly relations with Belgium and France, and no alliance with Germany), an event could be worked to bring Britain into the fold.


I am working on a new WWI scenario and also writing an AAR about it, however I havent got much time last few weeks :)

The 1836 Guarentee on Belgium was signed by the UK and Prussia, with the goal to stop france from invading Belgium. In 1871, when germany formed, the GI for Belgium was restored by the UK this time supported by the french, to keep the Germans out of Belgium.
 

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I have noticed that the UK often keeps it's guarentee for Belgian independence renewed. Sometimes, there is even a defense pact or all-out alliance. With proper events to represent what set it all off (the assassination, proper Serbia-Austria relationship) you should get something close to it.

Though I find that Germany has often already dominated Europe by the time the event would trigger. Not a very interesting war if it's like that.