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I think what he was saying is that the person who claimed changeling may be lying and is actually a wolf.
Yes. I'm well aware.
The changeling realised, though, that I was telling the truth and that me dying would be certain loss for the village.
They hence decided to reach out to me, noting how weird it was to do.
I'm the weaker party here, hence it was in the interest of hte changeling to reach out to me to be able to help keep me alive, in an attempt at prevnting your pack from reaching parity.
This is a very unconventional game.
Your pack will have certain parity if you get in another hunt due to the cub lynch.
Whereas my hunt can be blocked.
If the actual Changeling revealed themselves to a self-outed wolf, they're an idiot.
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I agree with aedan. This whole situation is just bizarre, but I fail to see why the changeling would do that.
This game will have an interesting discussion afterwards if half of what Wagon says is true.
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The pact was that they're protect me tonight in exchange for not hunting them.
That'd mean that I had anothr shot at victory, and the village would have a shot too.
Hence it was beneficial to the village as well as to me.
See it as a reverse Stockholm, if you want.
The changeling realised that me dying would mean baddie victory no matter what. Hence they wanted to offer protecting me in exchange for me promising to not hunt them. And the reason they reached out, instead of just protecting me tonight, was to be able to coordinate, I think, though am not certain.
In any case then the pact was to prevent Sleepy's pack from winning, while still allowing both me as well as teh village a chance of winning. So win win, really, for both of us.
The pact solely is that I'd get protected tonight, which is moot now as I decided not to snipe off Sleepy anyway, to force the village's hand in making it absolutely necessary for them to lynch Sleepy's mate. Had I sniped off there'd be the chance that Sleepy's mate would hunt me, in whihc case it wouldn't be a cub hunt.
This way the village can pick certain doom, or a chance of victory. Said chance being the changeling diverting my hunt to a baddie.
As I'm a man of my word then I'll keep my promise of not hunting the changeling, though, despite not needing ht protection after all.
I'm a man of my word. I won't hunt them.
I would recommend calling a “reverse Stockholm“ a Hastinapur, after this bizarre game.
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Because doing otherwise would be certain doom.
Sleepy's pack was on the cusp of winning. And they might still win if we don't lynch his mate tonight.
Desperate times call for desperate meassures. And strange alliances can form.
So to reiterate:
The village can lynch me tonight, allowing Sleepy's mate to hunt two pople due to cub. Those hunts can't be diverted. If the changeling tries, he dies.
Th village can lynch Sleepy's mate: I hunt tonight and the village wins if my hunt is diverted to a baddie.
The village lynches a non wolf: Same reasult as lynching me. Hence Sleepy's mate needs to hang today if the village wants to have a chance at winning.
It's hence in the interest of the village to work together with the hooves of madness today. We have a common interest and if we succeed then it'll be decided tonight whether you win or whether my pack wins.
I approve! When was the last time we created new werewolf terminology? Videonfan? It's been far too long
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Stockholm is newer than videonfanning, I'm pretty sure.
To pull a Dada defintely is too.
But yeah, probably been a couple yeras.
Good points! Surely only the baddie parts of the roles should be shared in public. But then the "psychic" could also use that info for some pretty convincing fishing maybe? Hm, much to consider.
Ooh I like that idea! We can create a list of questions (eg how many wolves? How many hidden traits and if what kind? Etc) and allow the player to ask one question to the GM per night
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There's one thing you overlook though, if a non-wolf baddie is lynched. That reduces baddie numbers. Yes Sleepy's mate would still get two hunts, but they're need to decide whether or not to hunt you. If they don't, then their position is precarious for the next day, while if they do, then they can only kill one goodie and it's not parity. Then it'd be down to the wolf and supporting baddies vs. the village.
I understand, but I don't trust.
Why you think Dedonus is the packmate, if we are to work together, at least give us that.
I voted Sleepy. Hence Sleepy's mate will get to kill me as well as a goodie. That leaves 4 baddies against 3 goodies.
After the deadline there'll be 10 players left. Tomorrow one hangs and either one or two gets hunted.
There's three unaligned baddies.
> then they can only kill one goodie and it's not parity. Then it'd be down to the wolf and supporting baddies vs. the village.
You're miscalculating the numbers. Them just killing a single villager will be enough.
I can't tell why I think he's Sleepy's mate without ruining my chances of winning.
You're just gonna have to trust me on this one. I have nothing to win by giving a false name. Sleepy's mate WILL hunt me tonight if he lives.
final vote count
@Sleepyhead -9- @aedan777 ; @Culann ; @Wagonlitz ; @alxeu ; @Team Wombat ; @Dedonus ; @Ironhide G1 ; @Chieron ; @Witch Agatha ;
@Dedonus -0-
@Wagonlitz -2- @Sleepyhead ; @CaptainGrimlock ;
No Vote
@Capage ;
@Sleepyhead -9- @aedan777 ; @Culann ; @Wagonlitz ; @alxeu ; @Team Wombat ; @Dedonus ; @Ironhide G1 ; @Chieron ; @Witch Agatha ;
@Dedonus -0-
@Wagonlitz -2- @Sleepyhead ; @CaptainGrimlock ;
No Vote
@Capage ;
I don't think that adds up right. Right now it's six baddies against six goodies. We lynch one baddie today, you hunt a goodie tonight (probably me), so five against five. Then say we lynch an unaligned baddie, then the other wolf hunts you and a goodie, that leaves two dead baddies and one dead goodie. So 3 against four.
UPDATE
The Pandavas believed that they had found the traitor. A princeling from the hill tribes, who had come to the glorious city of Hastinapur mere days before the deluge. He had whined and manipulated to advance his petty causes, but the maharajah tolerated his distemprous demeanor.
No longer. It was a matter of life and death, and his death was coming. He fought claiming that another was in fact a wereyak, that he had been betrayed... even while the court strangler began the inexorable twisting....
In the end, he was dead, and revealed to be a chimerical WEREYAK!!!
That night, an astrologer was found in their tower, torn to pieces, their star charts missing ...
@Sleepyhead THE WEREYAK CUB WITH A USED CLAIRVOYANT SCAN OF THE HORNS OF TERROR was lynched!!!
@Witch Agatha the villager with a used clairvoyant scan was hunted!!!
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