Votecount ~T-minus 18.5 hours to deadline
Capibara - 4
Avernite [964]
WitchAgatha [969]
Johho888 [970]
madchemist [975]
Sure, though out of my 2 options that still leaves the option of you being a sorc, who's unlikely to know the packs on day 1/2. Why DID you put Capibara in self-saving range anyway?Vote Capibara
I would like to note that me being a red makes little sense with how I attempted a push against Euro Day 2, when I was already a candidate at the time, and if Capibara is a red baddie, he would've been selling me out Day 2.
Furthermore, I pursued a case against Yakman Day 1, and you cannot argue that circumstances under which I did so constitutes an alibi vote.
I honestly believe there's good reasons making me a bad member of both existent packs.
Sure, though out of my 2 options that still leaves the option of you being a sorc, who's unlikely to know the packs on day 1/2. Why DID you put Capibara in self-saving range anyway?
But Capi was always gonna try and break it, which he couldn't without your vote. As a result, the tie-breaking taught us nothing, because all we learned from it was that Capi wants to live.To pursue the tie that we had been instructed to create?
I know what DeathNote had to say yesterday regarding Graymarch, but I honestly think that this is a decent case, unless someone else has a better explanation for Audren's actions.
Sleepyhead - 1
johho [988]
case of the mornings thanksSleepyhead voted johho, johho didn't vote Sleepyhead.
Aight, so let's do this like I did for the last big. I'll leave the colored votecounts for Dedonus, as long as he keeps living. Seriously, please don't die before me, as otherwise I'll probably have to pick up doing those, as well. Let's do hypothetical pack breakdowns:
Or that's what I would say if we could count on traits to be able to be used as clues. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that baddies are loaded in traits, now, so trait analysis is utterly useless. Still, it's best to know where we stand numbers-wise, so let's do this:
Homeworld Pack:
Audren the WW
Euro the turned WW
??? the WW
??? the Zealot
Offworld Pack:
Yakman the WW
Wagonlitz the Zealot
??? the WW
Unaligned:
Aedan the Purger
??? the Sorcerer
I'm assuming that each pack started with 3 players: 2 wolves and a Zealot. Since the Purger existed, I doubt the GM would unbalance the number of players in each pack, so the eighth starting baddie was probably the Sorcerer (since Cultists don't exist except by Robber demotion?).
So, now, time for every living player's previous votes:
1. Alxeu
2. Arkasas as Sephiroth
3. Alynkio
7. Dedonus
9. Sleepyhead as Colonel Jack O'Neil
12. De Chatillon
14. Avernite as Colonel Jack O'Neill, with two l's
15. johho888 as Dr Radek Zelenka
16. madchemist as Buzz Aldrin
22. R.Graymarch
23. DeathNoteforCutie as Dr. Anna Kubrin
24. Capibara
26. WitchAgatha
Alxeu:
Day 1: Yakman (Alynkio, Aedan)
Day 2: Beartjah (Beartjah, Culann, Euro)
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Yakman (Avernite)
Arkasas:
Day 1: Wagonlitz
Day 2: Dedonus
Day 3: Euro (Claude LC)
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Sleepyhead, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara
Alynkio:
Day 1: R.Graymarch (Alxeu, Avernite)
Day 2: Culann
Day 3: Arkasas
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Dedonus (Sleepyhead)
Day 6: Capibara
Dedonus:
Day 1: Sleepyhead
Day 2: Avernite (Alxeu)
Day 3: DeathNoteForCutie (Capibara)
Day 4: Audren (MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz
Day 6: Yakman
Sleepyhead:
Day 1: Avernite
Day 2: Beartjah (LatinKaiser)
Day 3: Arkasas (DeathNoteForCutie)
Day 4: Audren (madchemist)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara (Avernite)
De Chatillon:
Day 1: Wagonlitz (Audren)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: R.Graymarch
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Wagonlitz
Day 6: Yakman
Avernite:
Day 1: Yakman (Euro, Wagonlitz)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (johho, MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Sleepyhead, Capibara)
Day 6: Capibara (Witch Agatha)
johho888:
Day 1: Culann
Day 2: Beartjah (Yakman)
Day 3: Arkasas (R.Graymarch)
Day 4: Audren (Capibara)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Wagonlitz, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara (Avernite)
madchemist:
Day 1: R.Graymarch (Audren)
Day 2: Beartjah
Day 3: R.Graymarch (Arkasas)
Day 4: Audren (Witch Agatha, Capibara)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Capibara)
Day 6: Yakman
R.Graymarch:
Day 1: Emperor Ike
Day 2: Alxeu
Day 3: Euro (Capibara)
Day 4: Audren (Cliges)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Alynkio)
Day 6: Yakman
DeathNoteForCutie:
Day 1: Culann
Day 2: Culann
Day 3: R.Graymarch (R.Graymarch, Euro)
Day 4: Audren (Cliges, Sleepyhead)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Yakman
Capibara:
Day 1: Emperor Ike
Day 2: Alxeu
Day 3: R.Graymarch
Day 4: Madchemist
Day 5: MAWofdoom
Day 6: Yakman (R.Graymarch, Alxeu)
Witch Agatha:
Day 1: Emperor Ike (Claude LC, Avernite)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (Cliges)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Capibara
Thoughts and vote in the next post, in case there's an error that needs correcting.
Aight, so let's do this like I did for the last big. I'll leave the colored votecounts for Dedonus, as long as he keeps living. Seriously, please don't die before me, as otherwise I'll probably have to pick up doing those, as well. Let's do hypothetical pack breakdowns:
Or that's what I would say if we could count on traits to be able to be used as clues. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that baddies are loaded in traits, now, so trait analysis is utterly useless. Still, it's best to know where we stand numbers-wise, so let's do this:
Homeworld Pack:
Audren the WW
Euro the turned WW
??? the WW
??? the Zealot
Offworld Pack:
Yakman the WW
Wagonlitz the Zealot
??? the WW
Unaligned:
Aedan the Purger
??? the Sorcerer
I'm assuming that each pack started with 3 players: 2 wolves and a Zealot. Since the Purger existed, I doubt the GM would unbalance the number of players in each pack, so the eighth starting baddie was probably the Sorcerer (since Cultists don't exist except by Robber demotion?).
So, now, time for every living player's previous votes:
1. Alxeu
2. Arkasas as Sephiroth
3. Alynkio
7. Dedonus
9. Sleepyhead as Colonel Jack O'Neil
12. De Chatillon
14. Avernite as Colonel Jack O'Neill, with two l's
15. johho888 as Dr Radek Zelenka
16. madchemist as Buzz Aldrin
22. R.Graymarch
23. DeathNoteforCutie as Dr. Anna Kubrin
24. Capibara
26. WitchAgatha
Alxeu:
Day 1: Yakman (Alynkio, Aedan)
Day 2: Beartjah (Beartjah, Culann, Euro)
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Yakman (Avernite)
Arkasas:
Day 1: Wagonlitz
Day 2: Dedonus
Day 3: Euro (Claude LC)
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Sleepyhead, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara
Alynkio:
Day 1: R.Graymarch (Alxeu, Avernite)
Day 2: Culann
Day 3: Arkasas
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Dedonus (Sleepyhead)
Day 6: Capibara
Dedonus:
Day 1: Sleepyhead
Day 2: Avernite (Alxeu)
Day 3: DeathNoteForCutie (Capibara)
Day 4: Audren (MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz
Day 6: Yakman
Sleepyhead:
Day 1: Avernite
Day 2: Beartjah (LatinKaiser)
Day 3: Arkasas (DeathNoteForCutie)
Day 4: Audren (madchemist)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara (Avernite)
De Chatillon:
Day 1: Wagonlitz (Audren)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: R.Graymarch
Day 4: Audren
Day 5: Wagonlitz
Day 6: Yakman
Avernite:
Day 1: Yakman (Euro, Wagonlitz)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (johho, MAWofdoom)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Sleepyhead, Capibara)
Day 6: Capibara (Witch Agatha)
johho888:
Day 1: Culann
Day 2: Beartjah (Yakman)
Day 3: Arkasas (R.Graymarch)
Day 4: Audren (Capibara)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Wagonlitz, Alynkio)
Day 6: Capibara (Avernite)
madchemist:
Day 1: R.Graymarch (Audren)
Day 2: Beartjah
Day 3: R.Graymarch (Arkasas)
Day 4: Audren (Witch Agatha, Capibara)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Capibara)
Day 6: Yakman
R.Graymarch:
Day 1: Emperor Ike
Day 2: Alxeu
Day 3: Euro (Capibara)
Day 4: Audren (Cliges)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (Alynkio)
Day 6: Yakman
DeathNoteForCutie:
Day 1: Culann
Day 2: Culann
Day 3: R.Graymarch (R.Graymarch, Euro)
Day 4: Audren (Cliges, Sleepyhead)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Yakman
Capibara:
Day 1: Emperor Ike
Day 2: Alxeu
Day 3: R.Graymarch
Day 4: Madchemist
Day 5: MAWofdoom
Day 6: Yakman (R.Graymarch, Alxeu)
Witch Agatha:
Day 1: Emperor Ike (Claude LC, Avernite)
Day 2: Sleepyhead
Day 3: Euro
Day 4: Audren (Cliges)
Day 5: Wagonlitz (MAWofdoom)
Day 6: Capibara
Thoughts and vote in the next post, in case there's an error that needs correcting.
This is useful. Dedonus didnt vote Euro or Audren before the outing so it could be a packmate. Capibara looks really bad as well but since the JL asked to look for another candidates...
vote dedonus
I'm actually willing to take the odds that Graymarch is a red wolf whom Audren sold out Euro for.
UNVOTE ALXEU
VOTE AVERNITE!
Between the 2 possibilities DNFC outlined (Yak is legit evil vs Yakman is a trollish sideshow at whom the wolves can point to distract the village) I usually incline toward the later while keeping the possibility of the former in mind.
As usual? Why would you feel the need to remind us this is what you what you usually do? You were a villager in the last couple of games. Is there something different this time? Also, voting for the highly convenient scapegoat Emperor Ike feels anything but random.
Switch to Graymarch? Sure!
UNVOTE THE AVERKNIGHT
VOTE GRAYMARCH
I mean, Capi's pretty openly a bad guy at this point. We have to lynch him sooner or later.
I don't feel Graymarch is all that likely a red. It could happen that we ran two up at once and forced the wolves to pick between EURO and Graymarch, but I kind of doubt it. I'm with De Chat and think Dedonus fits very well as a red, with no votes on or by members of the Homeworld pack. He's also been really quiet aside from his (very helpful!) colored vote counts.
Unvote Capi
Vote Dedonus
If you believe that the case, what do you make of Audren's actions on Day 3. Simply just trying to make himself look better? He wasn't really under any consideration of being lynched at the time, either, which makes me hesitant to consider that his motive.
Probably an alibi vote he got locked into keeping because it'd look seriously inconsistent otherwise? He was in more danger than you might think because I had already announced my intention of lynching him if EURO turned up good. So a switch to a goodie might well have meant the noose for him later.