Another new player, another new thread.
1. I know I'm going to get some hostile silence for this, but the stops every month for a few seconds are barely tolerable. Yes, yes, the game is removing dead people so the saved game isn't 200MB. Well, neither is the game playable. I have 200MB, I have a very powerful computer, but the game plays as if it were autosaving each month. Very disruptive. And apparently CK does NOT do this. It's as if paradox couldn't solve a bug related to large saved games and worked around it by nearly breaking a great game.
2. I know there are bound to be helpful threads from 2006 on the subject, but what exactly does DV add that CK lacked? I'm contemplating the above issue and wonder how much I would be losing by leaving out DV.
3. Disclaimer: This too has surely been ruminated on. The pope is always demanding a new crusade. Well, the game is about crusades. But when he asks us to capture Jerusalem or maybe Alexandria, what are we supposed to do? The few times I attempted this, nearly the whole army died en route, even though I had to pay for the whole army's passage. There doesn't seem to be any way for say, England to get men over there unless they plan for every thousand which arrive in Jerusalem, twenty thousand in England. I'm not playing England either, I'm playing a small duchy which began a county.
4. Don't even get me started on the "Christian" kings taking a few ducats from the Moslems when you've almost captured their fort. I understand that the liege has the right to be in on the loot, but it's at the point where I pause the game immediately after I capture anything to control the crazed, selfish, hopeless spending liege's behaviour...maybe he's also schizophrenic and occasionally forgets his religion.
5. I thought EUII was poorly documented. DV is a maze of unexpected results, even knowing mechanics from EUII. Once I was playing a French county and decided to be rebellious with some other count. Well, a few months later this other count somehow became King of France and I became a Duke without so much as a dialog box. It just destroyed my game, because the idea was I started with a one province county and worked my way up.
Once I attacked a sheikdom in Iberia, controlled by rebels. As soon as I entered the province, it just became part of my county. There was no battle or siege or any thing, we just walzed in as if the land had always been ours.
Some times I get mysterious peace options - some random province shows up in a settlement where no territory switched. I was able to demand it, even though I had no claim. Then after peace was concluded, some random count took control of that province and became independent.
Other times I seem to mysteriously inherit things I have absolutely no connection to. For instance, one of my sons married a woman who had a previous son. He later inherited a claim on Zhmud of all places (we were in France) and I got messages announcing his escapades.
I keep learning new things about the game as I play it. I saw the gold tool tip claim that the county multiplier is .5. It's not talking about gold though, it's some weird run on sentence about how many provinces you can control directly!
6. There was this time I kept getting excommunicated. Like, three times in a row. I refused to give stability to the church and became skeptical, and the pope got angry, and well, two generations later the pope was still angry. The slightest thing can get me excommunicated. My bishop complained that he wasn't appreciated and he would leave if I didn't pay him. Since his loyalty was incompatible with my count, I said, you can leave. Excommunicated!
7. What does stability do? As far as I can tell it just makes good events more likely.
8. I really really hate the terrain map. I'm not sure if it is displaying correctly. It just makes things hard to see. The country map is no better. There's too much texture on the provinces, and you bizarrely see provinces in your view brighter than the surrounding national colors. The economic map barely works, and, well, pretty much every thing but the relational map gives me a headache. Am I right?
9. Can I remap keys? Zoom in is bound to +, but + is the alternate key, = is the one you can press without shift.
10. Can I play Moslems or Pagans?
That's enough for now, I guess.
1. I know I'm going to get some hostile silence for this, but the stops every month for a few seconds are barely tolerable. Yes, yes, the game is removing dead people so the saved game isn't 200MB. Well, neither is the game playable. I have 200MB, I have a very powerful computer, but the game plays as if it were autosaving each month. Very disruptive. And apparently CK does NOT do this. It's as if paradox couldn't solve a bug related to large saved games and worked around it by nearly breaking a great game.
2. I know there are bound to be helpful threads from 2006 on the subject, but what exactly does DV add that CK lacked? I'm contemplating the above issue and wonder how much I would be losing by leaving out DV.
3. Disclaimer: This too has surely been ruminated on. The pope is always demanding a new crusade. Well, the game is about crusades. But when he asks us to capture Jerusalem or maybe Alexandria, what are we supposed to do? The few times I attempted this, nearly the whole army died en route, even though I had to pay for the whole army's passage. There doesn't seem to be any way for say, England to get men over there unless they plan for every thousand which arrive in Jerusalem, twenty thousand in England. I'm not playing England either, I'm playing a small duchy which began a county.
4. Don't even get me started on the "Christian" kings taking a few ducats from the Moslems when you've almost captured their fort. I understand that the liege has the right to be in on the loot, but it's at the point where I pause the game immediately after I capture anything to control the crazed, selfish, hopeless spending liege's behaviour...maybe he's also schizophrenic and occasionally forgets his religion.
5. I thought EUII was poorly documented. DV is a maze of unexpected results, even knowing mechanics from EUII. Once I was playing a French county and decided to be rebellious with some other count. Well, a few months later this other count somehow became King of France and I became a Duke without so much as a dialog box. It just destroyed my game, because the idea was I started with a one province county and worked my way up.
Once I attacked a sheikdom in Iberia, controlled by rebels. As soon as I entered the province, it just became part of my county. There was no battle or siege or any thing, we just walzed in as if the land had always been ours.
Some times I get mysterious peace options - some random province shows up in a settlement where no territory switched. I was able to demand it, even though I had no claim. Then after peace was concluded, some random count took control of that province and became independent.
Other times I seem to mysteriously inherit things I have absolutely no connection to. For instance, one of my sons married a woman who had a previous son. He later inherited a claim on Zhmud of all places (we were in France) and I got messages announcing his escapades.
I keep learning new things about the game as I play it. I saw the gold tool tip claim that the county multiplier is .5. It's not talking about gold though, it's some weird run on sentence about how many provinces you can control directly!
6. There was this time I kept getting excommunicated. Like, three times in a row. I refused to give stability to the church and became skeptical, and the pope got angry, and well, two generations later the pope was still angry. The slightest thing can get me excommunicated. My bishop complained that he wasn't appreciated and he would leave if I didn't pay him. Since his loyalty was incompatible with my count, I said, you can leave. Excommunicated!
7. What does stability do? As far as I can tell it just makes good events more likely.
8. I really really hate the terrain map. I'm not sure if it is displaying correctly. It just makes things hard to see. The country map is no better. There's too much texture on the provinces, and you bizarrely see provinces in your view brighter than the surrounding national colors. The economic map barely works, and, well, pretty much every thing but the relational map gives me a headache. Am I right?
9. Can I remap keys? Zoom in is bound to +, but + is the alternate key, = is the one you can press without shift.
10. Can I play Moslems or Pagans?
That's enough for now, I guess.
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... in CK there were no freezes at end of month, but it was introduced in DV. The freeze is because the game is cleaning up dead characters in the save game file. In CK the end game would slow to a crawl because of too many characters in the file, as it didn't remove all the dead ones. This is done in DV. So the monthly freeze is neccessary to keep the game running smoothly in the 1300s too.
