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Basically, as it is, Robert Count of Artois is rendered as the elder brother of St. Louis, older by one day. The real birth date for St. Louis was 25 April 1214 and for Robert 25 September 1216. The practical importance is that Queen Blanche of Castille ends up being regent in Artois and France gets a random one (e.g. the Spymaster, who also gets to become the tutor, inflicting a troubling personality on St. Louis) or Louis VIII gets the wrong heir depending on the start of the game. Could you perhaps somehow make sure Queen Blanche always ends up the regent?

Also, while a minor thing, the dates of death are slightly early: St. Louis died 3 days later (the date for his son Philip's accession to k_france in the history files is okay, i.e. 25 August, only here it's 22) and Robert 1 day later, according to wiki (bottom of the page, offspring of Louis VIII). I did the footman's work here too while at it.

Plus, I'd give him more than tough soldier. He was supposedly adept at combat, whether personally as a knight or in overall command, despite the ill luck of his campaign in Egypt. Should probably make sure he has a high learning stat too. He was fluent in Latin and could write elegantly from a young age, enjoyed talking to theologians, so I guess it probably shouldn't be lower than 8 as a safe minimum estimate. Might want to give him Diligent too. That's pretty much a defining adjective for him (no diversion, some prayer but less than other kings spent on hunting or feasting in his own words, otherwise it was all administration/military command). He was the arbitrator of choice for everybody in Europe and even tried to mend the rift between the Pope and the Emperor, reputed for his sound judgement and justice (e.g. portrait hanging in the US Supreme Court), so I guess he should get the Just trait too by default. (Which is not to say his other virtues weren't remarkable, he clearly showed Charitable, Humble and Temperate off the top of my head.)

So:

Code:
455404 = {
	name="Louis"
	dynasty=743
	martial=7
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=455402
	mother=455403
	1216.1.2 = {
		birth="1216.1.2"
	}
	1234.5.27 = {
		add_spouse=455409
	}
	1270.8.22 = {
		death="1270.8.22"
	}
}

455405 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=100
	martial=7
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=455402
	mother=455403
	1216.1.1 = {
		birth="1216.1.1"
	}
	1242.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=455408 #Mathilde Reginar
	}
	1250.2.8 = {
		death="1250.2.8"
	}
}

Should be:

Code:
455404 = {
	name="Louis"
	dynasty=743
	martial=7
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="brave"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=455402
	mother=455403
	1216.1.2 = {
		birth="1214.4.25"
	}
	1234.5.27 = {
		add_spouse=455409
	}
	1270.8.22 = {
		death="1270.8.25"
	}
}

455405 = {
	name="Robert"
	dynasty=100
	martial=7
	diplomacy=6
	intrigue=5
	stewardship=7
	religion="catholic"
	culture="frankish"
	add_trait="tough_soldier"
	father=455402
	mother=455403
	1216.1.1 = {
		birth="1216.9.25"
	}
	1242.1.1 = {
		add_spouse=455408 #Mathilde Reginar
	}
	1250.2.8 = {
		death="1250.2.9"
	}
}

Charles of Anjou is okay. Date of accession (8 Nov. 1226) is okay.
 
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At the very least Louis VIII's children should have their correct birth years...

Code:
Blanche (1205–1206)
Agnes (b. and d. 1207)
Philip (9 September 1209 – July 1218)
Alphonse (b. and d. Lorrez-le-Bocage, 23 January 1213)
John (b. and d. Lorrez-le-Bocage, 23 January 1213)
Louis IX (Poissy, 25 April 1214 – 25 August 1270, Tunis)
Robert (25 September 1216 – 9 February 1250, killed in Battle of Al Mansurah, Egypt)
Philip (2 January 1218–1220)
John Tristan (21 July 1219–1232)
Alphonse (Poissy, 11 November 1220 – 21 August 1271, Corneto)
Philip Dagobert (20 February 1222–1232)
Isabelle (14 April 1225 – 23 February 1269)
Charles Etienne (21 March 1226 – 7 January 1285)

I realize they won't all be in the game.

Children should only have the same birth year if they're twins.