Wrong and Missing Ships: How to correct them ALL

Wrong and Missing Ships: How to correct them ALL

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I'd like to add that there is another typo in the French Heavy Cruiser namelist. It is supposed to be "Algérie" not "Algerié", furthermore, the actual heavy cruiser in game is correctly named "Algérie" as well as its ship template but the namelist is incorrect which causes any next Heavy Cruiser to be called "Algerié".1590217718266.png
 

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I'd like to add that there is another typo in the French Heavy Cruiser namelist. It is supposed to be "Algérie" not "Algerié", furthermore, the actual heavy cruiser in game is correctly named "Algérie" as well as its ship template but the namelist is incorrect which causes any next Heavy Cruiser to be called "Algerié".View attachment 580892
Very well spotted Perforated Chicken :)
 

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You should report this as a bug as well.

To everyone:
Is there any thing wrong about Ship and TF names, namelists etc?
Post it it here and propose how to improve it!
I'll be honest, I found so many errors/misspellings I started overwriting a bunch of them and lost track of what was wrong... :rolleyes: (I also spent a lot of time on ahistoric names just to fill out empty namelists, so I can't always remember which lists were broken and which were just small).

1.) Numerous names spelled wrong or inconsistent between the given ship name and the class name (resulting in two of the same ship; i.e. España and Espana).
2.) Names duplicated in multiple namelists don't check each other before building. This is particularly bad with the British BC and BB namelists which start with several of the same names (Anson and Howe), and sometimes 3 or more namelists use them. The USA has a number of duplicates, some even in the same namelist, due to sunken cruisers being rebuilt (with CA names in the CL list, and duplicates on names like Juneau in the CLAA list). Ideally all 3 US cruiser namelists would check each other and the Cities namelist before assigning a name*.
*I should point out that this error, at least, is commented on in the namelists themselves as a known bug*
3.) Names attached to the wrong list due to ship conversions (i.e. Seydlitz being a carrier rather than a heavy cruiser name). See above for the likely explanation, but since Seydlitz was laid down as a heavy cruiser it really should have stayed a heavy cruiser name.
4.) Names that were historically shared by multiple class types being restricted to very few, such as German CA names using historic BC names (such as Seydlitz and Lützow), or vice versa with the Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, and Bismarck (all previously armored cruisers). Despite the fact that it is entirely-possible to code in a wide range of classes for ship namelists (such as enabling heavy cruisers, battlecruisers, and carriers to all share an interchangeable list of names), this is rarely actually done except for enabling some interplay between BB/BC names and CL/CA names.
5.) Missing historic names when too few names are available (i.e. Lemnos, Vasilefs Konstantinos for Greek battleships).

I'd have to dig in to find more, but I've been pretty tired lately and getting back into that list would be a bit of a slog. The AI is also really dumb about them, and never switches its names when, for instance, converting a CL design into a CA. Admittedly most of my nitpicking was on the 2nd and 5th points (repeating names, empty namelists) then just the repeated frustration of the España/Espana and Algérie/Algerié (among others). I remember also stumbling on some leftover errors from the old namelists that they fixed in the MtG versions (aka the default lists, which are used if no namelist is applied to a ship class).
 

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You should report this as a bug as well.

To everyone:
Is there any thing wrong about Ship and TF names, namelists etc?
Post it it here and propose how to improve it!
From an earlier thread of mine regarding the IJN
Naval name list:

I noticed that most of the obvious typos have been fixed, so I don't know if the remaining issues are intentional.
These issues are copied from the old post, minus the part that have been fixed in the name list file. If ship names are linked across name lists now then these are mostly non-issues (aside from certain conversions that won't necessary take place)

JAP_CL_HISTORICAL:
The entire line 82 is a dupe of the CA list.

JAP_CA_HISTORICAL:
The Mogami class shouldn't be here as they were built as CL and are already in the CL list.

JAP_BB_HISTORICAL:
I don't think the Kongo class should be here. They were built as BC and had BC names.
The game doesn't seem to check if a name has been used by a vessel of another class, so having "Kaga" here could result in name collision.

JAP_BC_HISTORICAL:
Same reason above for "Akagi", "Atago", and "Takao"

JAP_CV_HISTORICAL:
"Kaga", "Akagi", and "Shinano" are conversions from other classes.
"Soryu" "Hiryu" "Shokaku" "Zuikaku" "Junyo" "Hiyo" "Taiho" "Unryu" belong to the early theme "flying creatures", of which "Junyo" "Hiyo" are conversions from civilian vessels: All IJN carriers bearing the name "-yo" (hawk) were conversions from non-combat vessels.
"Amagi" "Katsuragi" "Kasagi" "Aso" "Ikoma" "Kurama" belong to the late theme "mountains" (same as BC and CA), and 4 out of 6 also appear in the said lists.

JAP_CVL_HISTORICAL:
"Chitose" and "Chiyoda" were converted seaplane carriers that retained their old names. They violate the naming convention of flying creatures.
"Ibuki" was a converted CA hull and should not be here.

JAP_PREFECTURES:
This is a mix of historical provinces, Hokkaido provinces that existed for just 2 years (Oshima and line 300), and modern prefectures (line 301)

JAP_RIVER_MOUNTAIN:
This is essentially an incomplete mix of the CL and CA name lists that contains only 3 unique names ("Ayase" "Minase" "Otonase")
 
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Since not checking the other namelists is a Bug, removing names that appear in multiple lists seems excessive. Once the bug is fixed, the problem would disappear.

I started overwriting a bunch of them and lost track of what was wrong... :rolleyes: (I also spent a lot of time on ahistoric names just to fill out empty namelists, so I can't always remember which lists were broken and which were just small).
Can you post them here or in a new thread?

JAP_CV_HISTORICAL:
"Kaga", "Akagi", and "Shinano" are conversions from other classes.
"Soryu" "Hiryu" "Shokaku" "Zuikaku" "Junyo" "Hiyo" "Taiho" "Unryu" belong to the early theme "flying creatures", of which "Junyo" "Hiyo" are conversions from civilian vessels: All IJN carriers bearing the name "-yo" (hawk) were conversions from non-combat vessels.
"Amagi" "Katsuragi" "Kasagi" "Aso" "Ikoma" "Kurama" belong to the late theme "mountains" (same as BC and CA), and 4 out of 6 also appear in the said lists.
The Japanese Historical carriers list is extremely short. There are not enough names to cover the number of historically planned CV.

Somewhat off-topic, the IJN for some reason changed the naming scheme after Unryu. Originally, all purpose-built CV were named after noble flying creatures (Crane, Dragon, Phoenix) and the Hawk names fit thematically but the later carriers were named after mountains like BC and CA.
 
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