Yep. Basically it's just too easy to get some extra points by giving your character "wounded" in the ruler designer. It also makes your character "scarred" after some time giving you extra prestige.
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"Wounded" should be removed from the Ruler Designer
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I agree that it is to easily manipulated for an extra point when it heals quickly.
But to remove it entirely isn't the solution. If there was a level between it and maimed then maybe.
Maybe, and yes I know this is a messy way of doing it, maybe the ruler designer trait should be different. Greater health risk, doesn't produce scarred maybe.
Yea I don't think it should be removed but if it was it wouldn't be that big a deal.
But to remove it entirely isn't the solution. If there was a level between it and maimed then maybe.
Maybe, and yes I know this is a messy way of doing it, maybe the ruler designer trait should be different. Greater health risk, doesn't produce scarred maybe.
Yea I don't think it should be removed but if it was it wouldn't be that big a deal.
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With new patch coming on and his expension wounded will be a lot more dangerous. So you'll have your problem solved. This patch seem based mostly to solve some planning mistake, as automatic call of war and unbreakable nap.
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Why do you even want to restrict it in the first place ?
I already disagreed with any limitations in the Ruler Designer in general and think its ignorant to do it based on MP.
Is it because of Multiplayer ? If so, set rules for the MP group. Simple.
I already disagreed with any limitations in the Ruler Designer in general and think its ignorant to do it based on MP.
Is it because of Multiplayer ? If so, set rules for the MP group. Simple.
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Huh. I've died about a quarter of the times I've RD a ruler with wounded just due to the wounded events snowballing.
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I agree, or at least it should give less points (maybe none; it's going to turn into a positive trait quickly or you'll die and start over. Making it give zero points would make it entirely a fluff/roleplaying thing).
BUT, they should let you determine the number of points you get in Ruler Designer, the way they do in EU4 with their Nation Designer.
BUT, they should let you determine the number of points you get in Ruler Designer, the way they do in EU4 with their Nation Designer.
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There should be no restrictions in the first place. With Ruler Designer, I should be free to design the ruler I want, not what Paradox thinks I want. If it's true that MP players were abusing Ruler Designer, I don't see why the vast majority of single players need to be punished.
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Stuff like this is the reason why the multiplayer group I play with just switches off Ruler Designer.
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I haven't used RD in a while, is it still impossible to make a character with half-decent traits without them being 70 years old?
Either way, I don't see the point in doing this. If you don't like exploiting wounded, don't do it. No need to police how other people play the game.
Either way, I don't see the point in doing this. If you don't like exploiting wounded, don't do it. No need to police how other people play the game.
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I feel like there should just be an adjustable point limit for the sake of MP; if someone in a multiplayer game wants an invincible 16-year-old strong genius god-king, everyone should get to have one. Similarly if they all want anemic 70-year-old lepers for a really short game, that sounds hilarious.
Then in single-player, since it's whatever points you want to have, you can have any ruler you like anyway without resorting to gamey tricks like being a wounded (becomes scarred) excommunicated (lifted day 1) kinslayer (when the only dynasty members you have are your children) for the extra points. The benefit of playing an excommunicated ruler would be 'you get to play an excommunicated ruler!'
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You people convinced me. It should not be removed from the ruler designer. It should be just nerfed.
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The RD doesn't need any more balancing or nerfs. If people don't want to use it in MP they can turn it off or set up house rules. And there is NO point in nerfing it for single player, either don't use it or don't take exploitable traits. Simple. RD already blocks achievements, nerfing it is just a knee-jerk reaction to other people playing single player "wrong".
I'd like to see the RD become more flexible as Ambigore suggested but I doubt that would happen. The threat of knee-jerk nerfs is real though, the RD has gotten less and less flexible over time. We don't need more restrictions.
I'd like to see the RD become more flexible as Ambigore suggested but I doubt that would happen. The threat of knee-jerk nerfs is real though, the RD has gotten less and less flexible over time. We don't need more restrictions.
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What is it with people who dont like something and therefore believe it should be taken away from everyone? If you dont like it dont use it. Or come to some agreed upon standard for MP. But dont take from the community some feature you dislike.
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Totally agree. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it should be removed. And truth be told its really not that big of a deal.
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Ruler Designer is supposed to let you have all options out on the table, restrict it as a self rule or an MP rule and be adults about it, but don't mechanically restrict it just because you don't like it.
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Ruler Designer is already wayyyyyy too limiting. It's hard to make an a-okay ruler who isn't 50 years old.
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I got the mod Ruler Designer Unlocked which removes all age costs from the RD.
I don't know if it works still, haven't used it in a while.
I don't know if it works still, haven't used it in a while.
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How about you bind "wounded" to an event if you want it to be more lethal?
50% this event fires instead of getting scared:
Event: Wounds are festering / not closing
Option1: Give it more time (become sick in addition)
Option2: Do what you must (get maimed)
50% this event fires instead of getting scared:
Event: Wounds are festering / not closing
Option1: Give it more time (become sick in addition)
Option2: Do what you must (get maimed)
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