Would U like a 3D interface, such as EU3?

[unmerged(61311)]

I was just wondering how many of you would be pro-3D. It is very likely that HOI3 will be 3D like EU3, and it's obvious HOI3 would be better off 2D like it is now, which in my opinion would be an enhancement if it stayed 2D.

The 3D interface of EU3 is in my opinion a clunky, not pretty, waste of memory.
My hope is that enough of an uproar could be made here to entice PI not to go 3D with HOI3.

P.S. I would like HOI3 to come with a resolution selection built in.

P.S.S. why can't I form a poll?

 

[Kharek]

2D we dont need 3D

 

[traskott]

2D. 3D is for shooters or so. Irrelevant for a game which is defined by its developers as "strategy game".

 

[Bobby Shaftoe]

I think that some people miss entirely the point on all the 3D issue. The game is made with a 3D map, because they want to get it across producers. They don't aim to sell this game to that über-Crysis-hardcore-gamer with the latest Alienware rig (well, of course, if he buys the game, PI won't have a problem with that).

They make a 3D map because, this way, producers see the game and they say "Hey, a rather modern game, we can put it on the shelves", and once the game is on those shelves, any pal can come, see it, and decide if it's worth his money. In other words, 3D is a condition by producers, commercial centers, and so on; all those despicable people who thinks that appearance is far more important than what's inside. Normal people, they call theirselves.

And there is also, the need to make a 3D map because in a certain way, it's a better way to focus CPU in tasks like AI, game logic and so on.

I think 2D would be better and way nicer than 3D, and with all the recent multi-core CPUs, I suppose that raw computing power will not be a problem anymore, but until all these 3D games fashion dies we'll still see 3D games made by Paradox.

 

[Kronoss]

I have no idea, but probably a lot. I dare you to proof the opposite ?

Surely by that reason there is so many "3D" WWII strategic games in the market.

Alone you have to look the opinions about 3D map in this forum.

 

[unmerged(30846)]

2D! 2D!
3D is not absolutely necessary in a strategic game as HoI. Unless if the playibility goes down. :wacko:
Came on, all together... 1, 2, 3... 2D! 2D! 2D!

 

[szmik]

well, does it really matter??

If you're hardcore strategy gamer you shouldn't care about 2D/3D. All I care is playability, good AI, gamebalance, nice (realistic?) economic model, tech tree and so on. Therefore I don't know why ppl whine about 3D. It doesn't really matter how the game looks as long as it has 'the touch'.

 

[Mr. G]

well, does it really matter??

If you're hardcore strategy gamer you shouldn't care about 2D/3D. All I care is playability, good AI, gamebalance, nice (realistic?) economic model, tech tree and so on. Therefore I don't know why ppl whine about 3D. It doesn't really matter how the game looks as long as it has 'the touch'.

3d = lesser time for AI improvements.

 

[szmik]

how do you know it?

 

[ComradeOm]

3d = lesser time for AI improvements.

Assuming that working with 3D is more expensive than 2D. Defenders of 3D have repeatedly maintained that the opposite is the case.

 

[Mr. G]

Assuming that working with 3D is more expensive than 2D. Defenders of 3D have repeatedly maintained that the opposite is the case.

If 3d really is cheaper (which I hardly believe), then go for 3d.

 

[ComradeOm]

If 3d really is cheaper (which I hardly believe), then go for 3d.

Apparently 3D is far, far easier to work with when compared to a 2D map. Just take a look at the EUIII modding forum for proof.

 

[Darth Tracid]

3D is far easier to mod (or to make moddable in the first place.

secondly, I very, VERY much doubt the artists (doing the 3D, or 2D things) have any influence over the time spent on AI coding :rofl:

fact is: 2D = no shelfspace = no paradox = bad for this forum (with the whole thing about existing and stuff).....

 

[Mr. G]

3D is far easier to mod (or to make moddable in the first place.

secondly, I very, VERY much doubt the artists (doing the 3D, or 2D things) have any influence over the time spent on AI coding :rofl:

fact is: 2D = no shelfspace = no paradox = bad for this forum (with the whole thing about existing and stuff).....

Cheaper graphics, more money to AI and better design.

 

[szmik]

I assume that crew working on graphics (be it 2D or 3D) have usually little to do with AI improvement
That doesn't mean they can't take part in it, but their main task is different.

 

[Gardarian]

2D, of course

 

[Ralfa]

Spanish man say....2D the 3D is bad

 

[unmerged(83573)]

2D.Eye-candy isn't that important.

 

[unmerged(61311)]

3D cuts into AI, not in development costs' but in system resource use. Anyone who plays EU3(me included[on an average system]) will tell you EU3 runs very choppy, as opposed the HOI2(although that also runs a bit lousy in later years.)

I am assuming HOI3 in 3D will look much like EU3, if a bit better done, and for those of you who think the medevil 2: total war, map looks good, just remember how many provences there are, and the complexity of the AI(not in battle mode)

 

[unmerged(61606)]

the Eu3 3D was clumsy, slow, and a waste of resources

I hope HoI3 either has a better 3d, or still 2d

 

[unmerged(57311)]

2D, the nice traditional map-like look.
I dont understand why do ppl keep saying that 3d makes it easier to mod the map. As someone has already pointed out, it has nothing to do with 2d or 3d, it has only to do with the fact that in EU3 it was a priority to make the map moddable, so paradox did efforts to make it possible for the community.
There is no connection between modabiltity and 3d, it is purely a coincidence.
Of course I doubt this thread will do anything if EU3 engine is already there, its sure paradox will use it. I can understand the marketing reasons for 3d, but its said that even these fantastic sequels are heading towards the mainstream market...