I was just playing Papal States in the Grand Campaign to try out AGCEEP. The campaign started well....I annexed Naples, and I had Siena as a vassal. By about 1440 I decided that it was going to be easy to get the rest of Italy, apart from the completely unrealistic sizes of the AI armies of course.
I declared war on Modena (or whoever my northern neighbour is on the east coast) and quickly found that due to the 48k+ armies for these one province nations (Is that ever going to be addressed? My 4-provincer could only support 30k....how do they maintain any profit?) I had nothing left of my army very quickly. However, I had won a lot of battles and I really didn't have any choice other than to demand a lot of gold in return for peace because I couldn't hold out against the next wave of 50k.
This left me with a 7k army for my entire country (ouch) and I thought "Well, those countries don't have any armies left either, so I can take my time building up my army again. So a few years later, I am back up to 23k or something mediocre like that....but close to my support limit. Anyway, there I am minding my own business, plotting more wars against my neighbours when two alliances from the Italian peninsula consisting of every other Italian minor apart from my vassal Siena declare war on me! Together they must have commanded about 300,000 troops versus my 23,000. This is in 1447. I coudln't help but wonder what their support limits were. "OK," I thought. "Sometimes this game is stupidly unrealistic, but let's not panic" and promptly began to lose the opening battles against numerically inferior enemy armies. Tunisia and Tlemcen declared war on me too (out of the blue) and my army was reduced to 2,000 men hiding in the mountains in Apulia.
Before I knew it I had to concede Marche (oh the shame) to Tuscany to get peace from one of those alliances, thinking I could get it back later and the permanent CB would be handy, which still left one alliance against me, but then Tlemcen turns up with 40k men and takes Rome and Napoli and Apulia (those AI sure can siege fast) and force-vassalises me, reducing me to just Rome
After that I quit because that campaign was over whether I liked it or not. My mistake was probably not joining one of those alliances....but I needed to be forming my own to diplo-annex and all those minors got snapped up in big alliances pretty quickly. Anyway it sort of makes a change from winning all the time....but I can't help but be a little annoyed at the unrealistically large AI armies.
Anyway, I just made this thread so everyone else can share their absolute worst campaigns, in terms of extreme stupidity on the player's part, extreme bad luck, or extreme AI cheating
Hope to hear some good ones.
I declared war on Modena (or whoever my northern neighbour is on the east coast) and quickly found that due to the 48k+ armies for these one province nations (Is that ever going to be addressed? My 4-provincer could only support 30k....how do they maintain any profit?) I had nothing left of my army very quickly. However, I had won a lot of battles and I really didn't have any choice other than to demand a lot of gold in return for peace because I couldn't hold out against the next wave of 50k.
This left me with a 7k army for my entire country (ouch) and I thought "Well, those countries don't have any armies left either, so I can take my time building up my army again. So a few years later, I am back up to 23k or something mediocre like that....but close to my support limit. Anyway, there I am minding my own business, plotting more wars against my neighbours when two alliances from the Italian peninsula consisting of every other Italian minor apart from my vassal Siena declare war on me! Together they must have commanded about 300,000 troops versus my 23,000. This is in 1447. I coudln't help but wonder what their support limits were. "OK," I thought. "Sometimes this game is stupidly unrealistic, but let's not panic" and promptly began to lose the opening battles against numerically inferior enemy armies. Tunisia and Tlemcen declared war on me too (out of the blue) and my army was reduced to 2,000 men hiding in the mountains in Apulia.
Before I knew it I had to concede Marche (oh the shame) to Tuscany to get peace from one of those alliances, thinking I could get it back later and the permanent CB would be handy, which still left one alliance against me, but then Tlemcen turns up with 40k men and takes Rome and Napoli and Apulia (those AI sure can siege fast) and force-vassalises me, reducing me to just Rome
After that I quit because that campaign was over whether I liked it or not. My mistake was probably not joining one of those alliances....but I needed to be forming my own to diplo-annex and all those minors got snapped up in big alliances pretty quickly. Anyway it sort of makes a change from winning all the time....but I can't help but be a little annoyed at the unrealistically large AI armies.
Anyway, I just made this thread so everyone else can share their absolute worst campaigns, in terms of extreme stupidity on the player's part, extreme bad luck, or extreme AI cheating
Hope to hear some good ones.
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