Worldwide Communism

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28 February 1933

... Several people were found alive inside the burning Reichstag building yesterday. These people have been initially identified by police as NSDAP members Joseph Goebbels (a publicity officer in the NSDAP), and two lower members of the NSDAP's SA forces. Also a Dutch communist called Van Der Lubbe was found bound nearby. Police believe that this may have been an attempt to discredit communist groups which went drastically wrong. The election is expected to go ahead on the 5th of March...

1 March 1933
... President Hindenburg yesterday signed a "Decree for the Protection of People and State" which removed Adolf Hitler from the position of Chancellor and forbade NSDAP members from taking part in the elections this March. Leading NSDAP officials are subject to arrest...

3 March 1933
... The rioting in Munich has been blamed on Nationalist groups in the area. The main group behind this appears to be the NSDAP under the leadership of the former Chancellor Adolf Hitler. Hitler is the subject of an arrest warrant issued by police following the fire at the Reichstag last week. So far the death toll for the rioting stands at 105 and is expected to rise until order is restored...

6 March 1933
... Yesterdays election results have been released with votes being distributed as follows:-

Communist Party of Germany (KPD) - 181
Social Democratic Party of Germany (SDP) - 265
Centre Party - 91
German National People's Party - 57
German People's Party - 7
German State Party - 16
Bavarian People's Party - 21
Other Parties - 9

It is believed that the SDP will attempt to form a coalition with the Centre party in order to form a government...

9 March 1933
... The SDP announced that it will form a government with the KPD yesterday...

12 March 1933
... Renewed rioting in the various parts of the country threatens to result in all out civil war in Germany. Nationalist groups are demanding the removal of the Communists from government or they will be removed by force. Government officials declared that they were elected fairly and that they would not surrender to terrorist demands...

16 March 1933
... Nationalist groups throughout Germany yesterday started openly arming. Police clashed with these militias in Nuremberg late last night...

19 March 1933
... French forces yesterday moved into the Rhineland in "an attempt to restore order in the critical industrial heartland of Germany". Some believe that this is actually nothing more then an attempt to conquer German territory. So far government officials are not provoking the French government over this issue...

 

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Worldwide Communism is a mod based on a world where the 1933 German elections were won by a leftist coalition of the Social Democratic Party Of Germany and the Communist Party Of Germany after the Reichstag fire was blamed on Hitler's NSDAP. This has led to a civil war in Germany with the Munich area being ruled by the nationalist Germanic State, the Rhineland being made into a French buffer/puppet state, and the rest of Germany being ruled by the left/communist government.

This mod will then follow the spread of communism throughout the east of Europe and the attempts of the Western European Allies to resist.

If anyone is interested in playing or helping to make this mod then please let me know. Also, I welcome any input people are willing to put forwards.

 

[Veers]

Would definitively love to playtest this one, unfortunately my modding abilities are limited to simple events though.

 

[Ayeshteni]

Hehe. I have something similar, with the Nazis in Bavaria and Dresden and the rest ruled by the DDR.

some extra ministers for DDR:

507034;Head of State;Ernst Thalmann;36;ST;Insignificant Layman;High;M22;x
507035;Head of Government;Ernst Thalmann;36;ST;Backroom Backstabber;High;M22;x
507036;Head of Military Intelligence;Willie Munzenberg;36;ST;Dismal Enigma;Very High;M24;x
507037;Minister of Security;Ernst Toller;36;ST;Man of the People;High;M507037;x
507038;Head of Military Intelligence;Helmut Herzfelde;36;ST;Logistics Specialist;High;M23;x
507039;Minister of Armament;Ludwig Renn;36;ST;Military Entrepreneur;High;M21;x
507040;Head of State;Ludwig Renn;36;ST;Insignificant Layman;High;M21;x
507041;Head of Government;Ernst Toller;39;ST;Ambitious Union Boss;High;M507037;x
507042;Foreign Minister;Helmut Herzfelde;36;ST;Ideological Crusader;High;M23;x
507043;Minister of Armament;Willie Munzenberg;42;ST;Administrative Genius;High;M24;x
507044;Minister of Security;Ludwig Renn;39;ST;Efficient Sociopath;Very High;M21;x
507045;Head of Military Intelligence;Ernst Thalmann;36;ST;Industrial Specialist;High;M22;x
507046;Head of Military Intelligence;Erich Weinert;38;ST;Logistics Specialist;High;M152;x

will put up minister pics to go with them.

Ernst Toller:

hmm it seems that everyone bar Ernst Toller are already in the game (so I have changed to pic codes to those already given)

Ayeshteni

 

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I have set up the map changes for Germany and the basic army layout is underwork. The layout of armies will have to be changed later but it does allow minor testing so far. A picture of this will be uploaded tomorrow.

Events will need to be done, and if you are willing to help with any then many thanks. Some of them will be basic events while some later ones will be more in depth. So Veers, if you want to help I could do with some events making an Anshluss style events (Austria as the major making the Nationalists (U01) a puppet state). Or some creating a rally in the Nationalist area of Nurnberg creating a new militia unit. Also, if you want to suggest any others then feel free.

Thank you for the ministers Ayeshteni, if you or anyone else has any real-life SPD and KPD ministers in the early 1930's then please post them here (if they died unnaturally before 1936 then they may still be useful for this mod). Also, I would like Nationalist ministers that are not NSDAP ministers (The Nazis are only part of the Nationalist government).

Many thanks all

 

[Black Guardian]

I had the same idea ^^

Not the NSDAP, but the KPD won the Reichstags-elections in 1933. The consult was a government on soviet example, that cooperated with the soviet union in a very close way.

In my szenario Communist Germany and Soviet Union are conquering the whole Balkan, Poland, italy and Tschechoslovkia (or however pronounced in english) before the western states found an alliance to stop them.
But even with Britain, USA, France and others it seems like the Soviet-German alliance is much more powerful than the western alliance...
The result of that situation is another, non nuclear cold (or maybee hot?) war.

I made events for the conquest of all the countries in the east (but only in german), and invented a communist-german flag...

If i can help you, i´ll do my best to do so.

 

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I had the same idea ^^

Not the NSDAP, but the KPD won the Reichstags-elections in 1933. The consult was a government on soviet example, that cooperated with the soviet union in a very close way.

In my szenario Communist Germany and Soviet Union are conquering the whole Balkan, Poland, italy and Tschechoslovkia (or however pronounced in english) before the western states found an alliance to stop them.
But even with Britain, USA, France and others it seems like the Soviet-German alliance is much more powerful than the western alliance...
The result of that situation is another, non nuclear cold (or maybee hot?) war.

I made events for the conquest of all the countries in the east (but only in german), and invented a communist-german flag...

If i can help you, i´ll do my best to do so.

Thank you, any help is very welcome.

At the start of the scenario Germany will not be allied to the Soviet Union but they will later join the Commiturm in order to crush the Nationalists. Also, the Nationalists will maybe be joined by Austria (in a reverse Anshluss style event) and Italy. Even if the Communist North beats the Nationalist South, the industrial Rhineland will be a French puppet limiting German strength at first.

Later in the game, Poland will also suffer a revolution possibly bringing it into the commiturn. Some other countries will also have the possibility to revolt under certain situations. This should stop the Communists being too powerful early on. Nationalist governments will rally together in an alliance and Democracies will form their own alliance (Both the Axis and Allies will therefore still exist in some form). Many nations that fear communist expansion will join these alliances to remain independent. This should mean that all sides should have some chance of winning.

If you want to post some of your previous work then please do, I can read and write SOME German so I should be able to understand your events.

 

[Black Guardian]

I think my event´s won´t help you, because they are made on the base of an aggressive Soviet-German-Alliance,
not on an civil-war-shattered Germany ^^

The Communist-Germany flag...
I think it looks great ^^
shield and flag are already existing, so if you´re interested, just ask.


I would code some events, if you gave me more detailed information about the way, history happens in your scenario...

 

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I think my event´s won´t help you, because they are made on the base of an aggressive Soviet-German-Alliance,
not on an civil-war-shattered Germany ^^

The Communist-Germany flag...
I think it looks great ^^
shield and flag are already existing, so if you´re interested, just ask.

I would code some events, if you gave me more detailed information about the way, history happens in your scenario...

I was actually thinking of having the old German flag as the Communists came to power democratically and change the Nationalist flag slightly. That may change though so if you want to post the flag and counters...

I will post up the plan for events tomorrow. I'll probably only plan for major events to start with for the first few years.

 

[Ayeshteni]

I was actually thinking of having the old German flag as the Communists came to power democratically and change the Nationalist flag slightly. That may change though so if you want to post the flag and counters...

I will post up the plan for events tomorrow. I'll probably only plan for major events to start with for the first few years.

flag and shield can be found here (apparently no counter)... http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5066585&postcount=1152

Ayeshteni

 

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flag and shield can be found here (apparently no counter)... http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5066585&postcount=1152

Ayeshteni

Many Thanks

 

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The new map of Germany is in game now

If you can think of any changes that should be made please let me know.

Events so far thought of are:-
When Germany (GER) takes province 83 and 311; or 312 then Austria and Italy force peace leaving Germanic state (U01) with provinces 312 374 375 376. Non agression pact between north and south. Independance of south guarenteed by Austria and Italy. Also will occur on 19th May 1936 if not happened before that.

16th June 1936 Anshluss event between Austria and the Germanic state(U01). Germanic state becomes puppet of Austria or allies only (In Axis).

23rd June 1936 anti-commiturn pact between Austria, Germanic state(U01), Italy and Hungary (Lowers relations with communist countries and raises relations between signers, also guarentees of independence).

4th July 1936 Berlin Pact may bring Germany(GER) into the commiturn.

1st September 1936 Sudetenland divided between Austria and Germanic state(U01). 466 and 471 to Germanic state, 467 to Austria.

Also, I thought that the Spanish Civil War should be changed into Republicans versus Communists so if anyone can alter the events to represent that then please do.

 

[Miltiades]

Also, I thought that the Spanish Civil War should be changed into Republicans versus Communists so if anyone can alter the events to represent that then please do.

The Republicans were the Communists....

 

[Ayeshteni]

The new map of Germany is in game now

If you can think of any changes that should be made please let me know.

Events so far thought of are:-
When Germany (GER) takes province 83 and 311; or 312 then Austria and Italy force peace leaving Germanic state (U01) with provinces 312 374 375 376. Non agression pact between north and south. Independance of south guarenteed by Austria and Italy. Also will occur on 19th May 1936 if not happened before that.

16th June 1936 Anshluss event between Austria and the Germanic state(U01). Germanic state becomes puppet of Austria or allies only (In Axis).

23rd June 1936 anti-commiturn pact between Austria, Germanic state(U01), Italy and Hungary (Lowers relations with communist countries and raises relations between signers, also guarentees of independence).

4th July 1936 Berlin Pact may bring Germany(GER) into the commiturn.

1st September 1936 Sudetenland divided between Austria and Germanic state(U01). 466 and 471 to Germanic state, 467 to Austria.

Also, I thought that the Spanish Civil War should be changed into Republicans versus Communists so if anyone can alter the events to represent that then please do.

I actually like that Rhineland Free State (I may have to steal that idea ). What puzzles me is the carve-up of Czechoslovakia (well Sudetenland anyway). It was only possible due to 'appeasement' of a strong Germany. It would not happen 'peacefully' with Austria and Germanic State unless they were 'powerful'. I haven't found a suitable solution for my mod either.

If Austria and Germanic State had declared war on CZE then a 'treaty' could be formalised granting the Sudetenland to the 'Axis'. Or if the Axis held dominance in the Communist North (through War) perhaps. Although with Hungary it may be possible on a local level, but I doubt the 'Major' powers would sign it (perhaps give belligerence or lower relations with the Major powers?)

Anyway, this looks interesting.
Ayeshteni

 

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The Republicans were the Communists....

Well, Communists were in the Republican group but so were others. Republicans ranged from centrists who supported electoral democracy to communists or anarchist revolutionaries. I want it changed so that the Communists try to take over on their own with the Nationalists staying with the other Democratic groups in the Republican group.

 

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I actually like that Rhineland Free State (I may have to steal that idea ). What puzzles me is the carve-up of Czechoslovakia (well Sudetenland anyway). It was only possible due to 'appeasement' of a strong Germany. It would not happen 'peacefully' with Austria and Germanic State unless they were 'powerful'. I haven't found a suitable solution for my mod either.

If Austria and Germanic State had declared war on CZE then a 'treaty' could be formalised granting the Sudetenland to the 'Axis'. Or if the Axis held dominance in the Communist North (through War) perhaps. Although with Hungary it may be possible on a local level, but I doubt the 'Major' powers would sign it (perhaps give belligerence or lower relations with the Major powers?)

Anyway, this looks interesting.
Ayeshteni

I figured that with the fear of the communists the French and British are willing to accept the claim so that they have a stronger grouping in Central Europe. They could have Germans in the Sudetenland demanding to be included in Germany and the Allies decide that its better to let them join the Germanic state instead of them joining the Communist Germany.

Remember that the western powers were quite scared of Communists before and after Hitler. They only allied with Russia because they were seen as the lesser of two evils.

 

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I am currently trying to figure out whether or not to transfer Essen, Aachen and Dortmond to the Rhineland. At the moment the Communists are far stronger then the others and this could help balance it out. Any one got a view on this?

 

[Sarmatia1871]

I am currently trying to figure out whether or not to transfer Essen, Aachen and Dortmond to the Rhineland. At the moment the Communists are far stronger then the others and this could help balance it out. Any one got a view on this?

I believe these provinces were generally considered to be part of the 'geographic' Rhineland at the time, so putting them in your Rhineland Free State should be fairly realistic.

Personally, I'd imagine that the Southern remnant would have evolved into a radical-nationalist 'Bavaria' rather than a 'Germanic state', as it's a very culturally distinct and coherent region by itself, but feel free to disregard this if you want!

Also, if you need more German socialist or rightist ministers, feel free to take stuff from Kaiserreich - They're all sitting in the U0... files waiting to be used!

 

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I believe these provinces were generally considered to be part of the 'geographic' Rhineland at the time, so putting them in your Rhineland Free State should be fairly realistic.

Personally, I'd imagine that the Southern remnant would have evolved into a radical-nationalist 'Bavaria' rather than a 'Germanic state', as it's a very culturally distinct and coherent region by itself, but feel free to disregard this if you want!

Also, if you need more German socialist or rightist ministers, feel free to take stuff from Kaiserreich - They're all sitting in the U0... files waiting to be used!

I couldn't find a map of the Rhinelands real-life size or shape so I couldn't tell what provinces I should use. If you can find one then please let me know where you can find it. Many thanks.

I didn't want to call this Bavaria because it was meant to be part of a larger revolt that has broken down... early in the civil war it would have been larger and would have had territory in various parts of Germany. Also, the country will gain territory outside of Bavaria later in the game through events.

And thank you for the offer of ministers.

 

[Ayeshteni]

I figured that with the fear of the communists the French and British are willing to accept the claim so that they have a stronger grouping in Central Europe. They could have Germans in the Sudetenland demanding to be included in Germany and the Allies decide that its better to let them join the Germanic state instead of them joining the Communist Germany.

Remember that the western powers were quite scared of Communists before and after Hitler. They only allied with Russia because they were seen as the lesser of two evils.

Very good point.

Ayeshteni