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They should be there. Definitely.

As a flavour event it should give prestige to the country hosting it.

As a real event it should also give an economic boost to the host and possibly a technology oner as well. The fairs were partly held to show off domestic products to the world, partly to inspire domestic manufacturers to copy the foreigners.

But to hold a fair a country should be among the leading countries of the world.

One random event associated with the world fairs open to all countries would be that a national product (beer, canned sardines or peaches or whatever) has recieved a gold medal at the recent world fair. This should translate into some prestige/ economic benefit.
 

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you mean the Crystal palace from the 1851 exhibition? Should be definetely in as a flavour event. Don't see how it can be of importance in a game of global scale though.
 

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Originally posted by Hardu
One random event associated with the world fairs open to all countries would be that a national product (beer, canned sardines or peaches or whatever) has recieved a gold medal at the recent world fair. This should translate into some prestige/ economic benefit.

Like this idea about the gold medal.

Check the thread 'Thinking about "Prestige" Points' that I started. We touched on including World's Fairs in that one, too.
 

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Hosting the World's Fair should be something like being elected Holy Roman Emperor in EU. It should add prestige points, and probably add increased income to provinces and CoTs.

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I like Morpheus's idea, generally speaking. Make it something that a leading nation gets as a nice added bonus for being economically advanced and relatively well-liked. Give them extra prestige. I dunno about bonus income though, these were big events but I don't think they really altered the economy that much. So far as I know they tended to take place at locations that were already at the center of the region's economy.
 

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Well think about it. You have the world's fair, your going to have an influx of tourism, which means more purchases, which means more cash. It wouldn't even ahve to be the whole country, it could just be the capital, or the richest province.
 

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Worlds fairs will likely be events, or maybe something you buy like Sole Defender of the Faith. Anything much more complicated is really not likely, IMHO.
 

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Originally posted by Morpheus506
Well think about it. You have the world's fair, your going to have an influx of tourism, which means more purchases, which means more cash. It wouldn't even ahve to be the whole country, it could just be the capital, or the richest province.
I assume that it'll cost a bundle to hold it as well?
But benefits as future trade, prestige etc. should justify the cost.
 

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Originally posted by webbrave
you mean the Crystal palace from the 1851 exhibition? Should be definetely in as a flavour event. Don't see how it can be of importance in a game of global scale though.

The Great Exhibition was the first of the Wolrd Exhibitions. These were natioanlshowcases of trade and industry and at the very least served to give nations prestige. But they also served commercial and scientific purposes.
 

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Originally posted by Morpheus506
Well think about it. You have the world's fair, your going to have an influx of tourism, which means more purchases, which means more cash. It wouldn't even ahve to be the whole country, it could just be the capital, or the richest province.

Without knowing much about this I would say that these fairs costed more than they supplied, in terms of ticket sales and tourist income. You see, during this period Japanese and American tourists didn't flood the European cities in the summer. ;)

I would think that only the inhabitants of the actual country (and mostly the city itself) plus a few diplomats, merchants and rich foreigners visited the fairs. Also these fairs where very costly for the countries. And it is really hard to measure what something like this would bring in terms of prestige or growth if it even should be considered.

It would be great as a flavour though and maybe bring up the relations with other nations.

Again, this is only speculations but it makes sense though. Right? ;)
 

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Originally posted by Aldo
... a few diplomats, merchants and rich foreigners visited the fairs.

Exactly. But those were precisely the people that bought the stuff displayed at the fairs for hom consumption.

If fairs were not regarded as important by contemporaries then why did they bother to arrange them?

It's at the very least a prestige event.
 

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Exactly. But those were precisely the people that bought the stuff displayed at the fairs for hom consumption.
But how many was these buyers and how important was there purchases (for the arranging country)?


If fairs were not regarded as important by contemporaries then why did they bother to arrange them?
So nothing that wasn't commercially (or politically etc.) viable has been conducted in the history of man? ;)


It's at the very least a prestige event.
Sure, but how do you count prestige and was is the effect of prestige?

Personally, I think these fairs was important for technical advances but the actual effects for the arranging country is hard to measure.