World Without Order

[Nicholander]

What if the cold war was between not 2, but 3 ideologues?

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http://filesmelt.com/dl/World_Without_OrderV0.1_.1_.rar



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This is what World Without Order (WWO) answers, with the 3rd ideologue being Monarchism.
Lead by Yugoslavia, the Monarchist Alliance is between Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania, and Albania.

THIS MOD USES THE NEW WORLD ORDER 2 MOD AND THE COLD WAR TECH TREE MOD, BOTH NOT MADE BY ME. (sorry if i'm not allowed to...)

History: In late 1936, the nations of Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Albania and Greece come together to make the Balkan Pact Of Mutual Assistance, (BPMA) which was formed because of the fear of the growing power hungry Nazi Germany, and, well, the purpose of the pact is kinda obvious. In 1937, the BPMA fund a coup in the constitutional monarchy of Romania, which is successful, and Romania both joins the BPMA and becomes Monarchist, and in early 1938, the BPMA becomes the Monarchist Alliance...

After World War 2 begins, the Monarchist Alliance starts quickly building defensive structures on the nations border with Axis nations, and in early 1943, The alliance sees the turning tide of the war, and declare war on the Axis, quikly occupying Hungary, Austria And a bit of Italy. After the allies win the war in 1945, (the Monarchist Alliance joins the allies BTW) And the following cold war approaches...

The Monarchist Alliance After the war controls Austria, Almost all of Hungary, (The USSR has a little northern bit) Trieste, (and Claims Venice) and an occupation zone in Germany, which is Bavaria.

THIS IS A PRE-ALPHA: DON'T EXPECT THIS TO HAVE NO BUGS: http://filesmelt.com/dl/World_Without_OrderV0.1_.1_.rar

So That's WWO, And Also, It Would Be Just BRILLIANT If you could help with this Mod if you like the idea!

The Main thing i need help with: I'm trying to put Yugo. in the mod, in the 1945 "new world order" scenario in NWO2. the Yugo. in that is Communist Yugo., which is a different nation from regular Yugo. I've been trying to make Communist Yugo. Be Monarchist/Regular Yugo., but i have sucked at it, and i also want Communist Yugo. to be able to take power if the USSR defeats the monarchists. so if you could do that, That would Be EXTREMELY Helpful to me! (you will be congratulated in credits, because you helped a ton!)

Installation Instructions:
1. Install "New World Order 2" Mod http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?561583-New-World-Order-2
2. Unzip World With Out Order.Zip
3. Copy New World Order 2 Folder In Mods Folder.
4. Copy Contents Of World With Out Order Folder Into Copied New World Order 2 Folder.
5. Rename Copied NWO2 Folder With WWO Mod "World Without Order"

Credits And Thanks:
tommo8993: For Suggesting A Monarchist Coup In Spain.
Kaiserreich: For Making The Austrian Monarchist Flag. (From That Mod)

 

[Gukpa]

Ok so it's a traditionalist X a commie X a cappitalist block ?

 

[Nicholander]

pretty much!

 

[unmerged(87972)]

But you are aware that such block would have industrial and economic power similar to a single american city and couldn't even dream of being a match to a friction of power of USA or USSR. So they wouldn't be in a position to be third party in cold war. No chance even on paper.
But if you are ok with ASB that maybe interesting

 

[Nicholander]

well, i guess you could think of it like the other monarchist alliance nations pumping IC into Yugoslavia, and turkey joins the alliance in early 1946.

 

[tyman323]

I really like this idea, not only is it not just another fatherland mod, but it is a REALLY unique AH idea (even if it couldn't happen), i hope this can make it big.
I do have some questions (and maybe suggestions if your willing.) 1. how will the monarchists play out in the cold war flash points, do they lean towards either side or completely separate on their own. 2. if the Monarchs control Bavaria, are they going to restore the German monarch, or have the Bavarian one (I actually see the later to be more likely, especially after post ww2) 3. does this mean that the poor soviets only have Poland and east Germany? 4. how does turkey join the monarchists?

 

[Nicholander]

I really like this idea, not only is it not just another fatherland mod, but it is a REALLY unique AH idea (even if it couldn't happen), i hope this can make it big.
I do have some questions (and maybe suggestions if your willing.) 1. how will the monarchists play out in the cold war flash points, do they lean towards either side or completely separate on their own. 2. if the Monarchs control Bavaria, are they going to restore the German monarch, or have the Bavarian one (I actually see the later to be more likely, especially after post ww2) 3. does this mean that the poor soviets only have Poland and east Germany? 4. how does turkey join the monarchists?

1. some examples of flashpoints with the MA are: The hungarian question: the ussr demands all of hungary from the MA, the Yugoslavs refuse. Kings with A-bombs: the MA research nuclear weapons, with bombers LITERALLY on the border with the ussr and western europe, crisis ensues... 3 way berlin crisis: same as irl, but with a yugoslav occupation zone.

2. the MA wants to restore the monarchist empires of europe, like the kaisers germany, the tsars russia, and Austria-Hungary. So no bavarian kingdom.

3. yes that does mean that the ussr has only poland, east germany, Czechoslovakia, and small that bit of hungary.

4. a neo-ottoman party wins the 1946 turkish elections, (because of massive MA support) and wants to join the MA, and re-create the ottoman empire!

 

[Gukpa]

About that monarchies,what about with the time,they came to a more and more "Traditional" position,soon leaving capitalism and adopting a form of neo-feudalism?

 

[tommo8993]

Looks great. How about a monarchist coup in Spain? Or an intervention to put the ottomans back in power.

 

[Ericafaq]

How this pact can be formed,if prince Pavel was a sider of pro-german political course?Albania was italian puppet,Bulgaria was a sider of german course too

 

[Nicholander]

How this pact can be formed,if prince Pavel was a sider of pro-German political course?Albania was Italian puppet,Bulgaria was a sider of German course too

This is if those leaders did not side with the Germans, and what happens about Albania is that Yugoslavia, Greece and Bulgaria threaten Italy to give Albania there freedom, and with most Italian forces in Ethiopia, they can't handle the flood of troops from the Balkans, so they give in. (Yes, Mussolini gave in to the BPMA.)

 

[Nicholander]

About that monarchies,what about with the time,they came to a more and more "Traditional" position,soon leaving capitalism and adopting a form of neo-feudalism?

Well, the monarchies at the time in Europe looked a lot like Kaisers German Empire, (what Vicky 2 calls "Prussian constitutionalism") which is not exactly like "the king has total power". From what i understand, it's like the people elect the ministers, and the king/kaiser stays in powere until he/she dies, (and his/her heir inherits the throne) and he/she also has to approve major actions for them to happen.

 

[Nicholander]

Hey! Here's A "Download".... And By That I Mean This Is A Version WHICH CRASHES WHEN YOU START IT UP and its 3 GB... so you probably should NOT download it... https://www.mediafire.com/folder/taxwm1abq0rz6/World_Without_Order

 

[Nicholander]

Not Sure If I should post this... but i'm having trouble with this event:

event = {
id = 90098787
country = { U27 YUG }

name = "Austria"
desc = "PREALPHA"
picture = "nwo\occupation_zones_in_germany"
style = 1

trigger = {
control = { province = 195 data = 1 }
}

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1945 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1947 }

action = {
name = "Austrian Puppet State For Us!"
command = { type = independence which = AUS }
command = { type = make_puppet which = AUS }
command = { type = alliance which = AUS }
}

}

What it does is that it makes Austria, which yugoslavia controls, an independent nation (which is a puppet of Yugo.). But when i start the game, (with the mod) nothing happens (and i did unpause the game.)

Am i doing something wrong with the code?

EDIT: fixed it myself

 

[Gukpa]

Well, the monarchies at the time in Europe looked a lot like Kaisers German Empire, (what Vicky 2 calls "Prussian constitutionalism") which is not exactly like "the king has total power". From what i understand, it's like the people elect the ministers, and the king/kaiser stays in powere until he/she dies, (and his/her heir inherits the throne) and he/she also has to approve major actions for them to happen.

Yes,but the suggestion of a neo-feudalism and traditionalistic policies,was to give this block a different identity from the NATO and the Warsaw pact

 

[Nicholander]

FIRST PRE-ALPHA IS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Download: http://filesmelt.com/dl/World_Without_OrderV0.1_.1_.rar

 

[Gukpa]

Yay!

 

[awats124]

This mod is really ridiculous if Germany had a powerful neighbour to its south it would have never launched the invasions of Yugoslavia and Greece meaning that operation Barbarossa would have began earlier and the Germans could have reached Moscow and beaten the Soviet Union before winter set in on on the other hand though I do always like seeing new althist mods even if they are implausible

 

[Nicholander]

You Do Realize That Germany Would Have Put Some Forces On The Border With The Monarchist Alliance, Which IRL Would've Been Used For Barbarossa.