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Like in victoria 2 research and national focus time is saved even if you don't pick a tech/focus on day one. Don't know how many days you can save however.

Is ressource consumption queued to produced equipment or used factories?
You can que up factories. Like you can create a production line and assign a number of factories to it, even if you don't have enough factories for it. New factories will be added to that line as soon as they become available.

IIRC produced equipment. Each tank e.g. costs a certain amount of resources
No that is wrong. Each factory need a fixed amount of resources each day depending on what it produce but the quantity it produce each day have no effect on the resources consumption.

Like this:
If I understand your question correct, you want to know if ressource consumption is tied to the number of factory used or equipment produced. From what I saw in the stream it should be calculated from the factory. If you need 1 steel and oil for 1 factory, then it will be 2 steel and oil for 2 factory and so on. Makes the effefficiency of your factories much important.
 
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Some of the HoiIV mini counters (particularly the French along the Maginot) keep hopping around like Mexican jumping beans. Very distracting. I hope they can iron that out.
 
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Some of the HoiIV mini counters (particularly the French along the Maginot) keep hopping around like Mexican jumping beans. Very distracting. I hope they can iron that out.

Well, you don't have to let them exercise. :D
 

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Good summary of my thoughts too.

My greatest concern is your point the pace of combat, it being very fast, Land some divisions by sea, Invade, get counter attacked, no worries they are useless smash them, smash, smash, smash, get moved a bit then more smash, smash, lets get Valencia smash, smash, smash, get one of my divisions surrounded, ha ha never mind the enemy are useless smash smash, look the prize Barcelona over there a doddle smash smash .... no need to co-ordinate anything with any Nationalists, no air force needed in a couple of weeks my two uber-mensh boys will mop up the North of Spain no worries, then redeploy back to home land ready instantly for more smash smash.

I know that they had the game on high speed, but if divisions don't need to rest, be pulled out of the line, before each offensive, and it's just an unstoppable rolling maul (a reference to a tactic in Rugby which is becoming a blight on the game), it's just like playing Risk and WWII will be over in a year. Especially that fighting was taking place in really, really mountainous country? I saw no evidence that "Battle Planner" was needed to eek out an advantage?... what point is Battle Planner for?

Sort of disturbed that having sent forces to Spain ... the player commands them not Spain?

Somethings badly off in the land combat?

Aye, this and the lack of coordination between the expeditionary force and the Spanish Nationalists (sorry that wasn't in my summary, didn't pop into my head until I'd read FOARP's thread on them). I'm hoping the pace of battle isn't too hard to balance (or, if that's the devs desired pace, that we can mod it slower so WW2 isn't over by 1941), but the coordination side of things is probably the biggest potential concern.
 
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Here's another question I'm having. Have I been blind? Has there been a major announcement of this stream days in advance? It's certainly possible, but I have to question why PI puts major adds at the top of the forum about all sorts of things, like helping the wiki, or major sales on Steam, and whatnot, but not about this. I learned about this after the facts. So, Podcat and co, next time, make sure the fans don't miss the announcement, please.

Twitter is your only true friend*.

Second question: will this be every wednesday or was this a one-time deal?[/QUOTE]

Should be every Wednesdays.


*Not really.
Some things are tweeted/ (official Pdx, Johan), some things only posted on FB (official Pdx), some things only on the forum (podcat)...
It's a bit messy actually.
 
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I ended my subscription to Facebook for personal reasons of privacy several months ago and have been distrustful of social media ever since, so I am completely dependent on the forum for info. hence my question to Podcat and co, if they read it.
 
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I ended my subscription to Facebook for personal reasons of privacy several months ago and have been distrustful of social media ever since, so I am completely dependent on the forum for info. hence my question to Podcat and co, if they read it.

If you're into videogames, I suggest you create a "account de guerre". In any case, sooner or later everything arrives on the forum, like this thread shows.
 
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I'm not convinced we need pre-dreadnoughts, there weren't exactly that many around. But having WWI ships ( Queen E ), Washington Treaty ships ( Nelsons ) and then probably splitting the 1936 tech into 1934 ( Littorio & Richelieu & Scharnhorst ) this would be where a lot of speed was injected into everyone's idea of a battleship and 1938 ( South Dakoda & Bismarck ) this would be where firepower became unrestrained and where AA options start to proliferate.

Having reviewed my battleship books In order to capture the variety of capital ships in service in WW2, I believe we need:

Pre-Dreadnoughts
Schlesien & Schleswig Holstein (Germany), Sverige, Drottningen Victoria, Gustaf V (Sweden), Kilkis (& Lemnos) (Greece)
The Greek pre-Dreadnoughts were a training ship & hulk respectively by the time WW2 started, but the Kilkis at least could have been brought back into active service. Both were sunk by German dive bombers in April 1941.

Dreadnoughts
Alimirante Latorre (Chile), Minas Gerais (Brazil), Rivadavia & Moreno (Argentina), Yavuz Sultan Selim (Turkey), Jamie I & Espana (Spain), Marat, Parizhkaya Kommuna & Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya (USSR), Caio Duilio, Andrea Doria, Conte di Cavour & Giulio Cesare (Italy), Paris, Courbet, Ocean, Bretagne, Provence & Lorraine (France), Arkansas (US)

Super Dreadnoughts (WW1 Battleships)
Queen Elizabeth & R classes & Hood (UK), Fuso, Kongo, Ise & Nagato classes (Japan), New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania & New Mexico classes (US), Scharnhorst class (Germany), Dunkerque class (France)

Washington Treaty Battleships
Nelson class (UK), Colorado class (US), Bismarck class (Germany), Richelieu class (France), Vittorio Veneto class (Italy)

London Treaty Battleships (WW2 Battleships)
King George V & Lion classes & Vanguard (UK), North Carolina, South Dakota & Iowa classes (US), Sovetskiy Soyuz class (USSR), H-39 class (Germany)

Super Heavy Battleships
Montana class (US), H-41 class (Germany), Yamato class (Japan)

Half a dozen pre-dreadnought class ships may not sound like enough to justify their own tech, but consider that there were only 2 super heavy battleships actually in service in WW2. There are also the monitors HMS Erebus & Terror, which with 2 x 15" guns each come close to matching the firepower of a pre-dreadnought, although they were very slow and lightly armoured.
 
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Having reviewed my battleship books In order to capture the variety of capital ships in service in WW2, I believe we need:
Super Dreadnoughts (WW1 Battleships)
Queen Elizabeth & R classes & Hood (UK), Fuso, Kongo, Ise & Nagato classes (Japan), New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania & New Mexico classes (US), Scharnhorst class (Germany), Dunkerque class (France)

Washington Treaty Battleships
Nelson class (UK), Colorado class (US), Bismarck class (Germany), Richelieu class (France), Vittorio Veneto class (Italy)

Sorry, but Dunkerque class and Scharnhorst class were definately not WW1 Super Dreadnoughts, they were the first (self extended) Washington treaty Battleships (or sometimes also called Battlecruisers)
 

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Having reviewed my battleship books In order to capture the variety of capital ships in service in WW2, I believe we need:

Pre-Dreadnoughts
Schlesien & Schleswig Holstein (Germany), Sverige, Drottningen Victoria, Gustaf V (Sweden), Kilkis (& Lemnos) (Greece)
The Greek pre-Dreadnoughts were a training ship & hulk respectively by the time WW2 started, but the Kilkis at least could have been brought back into active service. Both were sunk by German dive bombers in April 1941.

Dreadnoughts
Alimirante Latorre (Chile), Minas Gerais (Brazil), Rivadavia & Moreno (Argentina), Yavuz Sultan Selim (Turkey), Jamie I & Espana (Spain), Marat, Parizhkaya Kommuna & Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya (USSR), Caio Duilio, Andrea Doria, Conte di Cavour & Giulio Cesare (Italy), Paris, Courbet, Ocean, Bretagne, Provence & Lorraine (France), Arkansas (US)

Super Dreadnoughts (WW1 Battleships)
Queen Elizabeth & R classes & Hood (UK), Fuso, Kongo, Ise & Nagato classes (Japan), New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania & New Mexico classes (US), Scharnhorst class (Germany), Dunkerque class (France)

Washington Treaty Battleships
Nelson class (UK), Colorado class (US), Bismarck class (Germany), Richelieu class (France), Vittorio Veneto class (Italy)

London Treaty Battleships (WW2 Battleships)
King George V & Lion classes & Vanguard (UK), North Carolina, South Dakota & Iowa classes (US), Sovetskiy Soyuz class (USSR), H-39 class (Germany)

Super Heavy Battleships
Montana class (US), H-41 class (Germany), Yamato class (Japan)

Half a dozen pre-dreadnought class ships may not sound like enough to justify their own tech, but consider that there were only 2 super heavy battleships actually in service in WW2. There are also the monitors HMS Erebus & Terror, which with 2 x 15" guns each come close to matching the firepower of a pre-dreadnought, although they were very slow and lightly armoured.

They generally look like a good set to me (noting I'm hardly an expert), although I'd probably have two SHBB classes, one for Yamato and then another for Montana and H-41. It gets a bit messy with all the treaty stuff, but that's a lot closer than a 1922-1936-1940-1944 model. Agree with Cpack that Dunkerque and Scharnhorst don't really belong as Super Dreadnoughts (too fast, with too small guns) - may be better suited as BCs because of their speed, and relatively lighter guns?
 

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Sorry, but Dunkerque class and Scharnhorst class were definately not WW1 Super Dreadnoughts, they were the first (self extended) Washington treaty Battleships (or sometimes also called Battlecruisers)

Looking solely from a point of view as to when they were built, you are correct, but both classes included design compromises that I think drop them out the class of the other Washington Treaty ships.

The Scharnhorst's were only equipped with 9 x 11" guns, and even if their intended 15" guns had been ready they would have only had 6 of them. Their firepower was only on a par with Renown and Repulse, although they were better protected than those battle-cruisers.

Similarly the Dunkerque's were only equipped with 8 x 13" guns as a cost saving measure, meaning they were not in the same league as the 8-9 x 15/16" guns of the Washington treaty ships. They were also lightly armoured on the same sort of scale as the Renown & Repulse. The Richelieu class rectified these deficiencies.
 
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Awesome, thank you Nelfe!!


Gosh if I was only online to comment but those were work hours, Johan I challenge you to the my first Multiplayer game!!
 
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Having reviewed my battleship books In order to capture the variety of capital ships in service in WW2, I believe we need:

Pre-Dreadnoughts
Schlesien & Schleswig Holstein (Germany), Sverige, Drottningen Victoria, Gustaf V (Sweden), Kilkis (& Lemnos) (Greece)
The Greek pre-Dreadnoughts were a training ship & hulk respectively by the time WW2 started, but the Kilkis at least could have been brought back into active service. Both were sunk by German dive bombers in April 1941.

Dreadnoughts
Alimirante Latorre (Chile), Minas Gerais (Brazil), Rivadavia & Moreno (Argentina), Yavuz Sultan Selim (Turkey), Jamie I & Espana (Spain), Marat, Parizhkaya Kommuna & Oktyabrskaya Revolyutsiya (USSR), Caio Duilio, Andrea Doria, Conte di Cavour & Giulio Cesare (Italy), Paris, Courbet, Ocean, Bretagne, Provence & Lorraine (France), Arkansas (US)

Super Dreadnoughts (WW1 Battleships)
Queen Elizabeth & R classes & Hood (UK), Fuso, Kongo, Ise & Nagato classes (Japan), New York, Nevada, Pennsylvania & New Mexico classes (US), Scharnhorst class (Germany), Dunkerque class (France)

Washington Treaty Battleships
Nelson class (UK), Colorado class (US), Bismarck class (Germany), Richelieu class (France), Vittorio Veneto class (Italy)

London Treaty Battleships (WW2 Battleships)
King George V & Lion classes & Vanguard (UK), North Carolina, South Dakota & Iowa classes (US), Sovetskiy Soyuz class (USSR), H-39 class (Germany)

Super Heavy Battleships
Montana class (US), H-41 class (Germany), Yamato class (Japan)

Half a dozen pre-dreadnought class ships may not sound like enough to justify their own tech, but consider that there were only 2 super heavy battleships actually in service in WW2. There are also the monitors HMS Erebus & Terror, which with 2 x 15" guns each come close to matching the firepower of a pre-dreadnought, although they were very slow and lightly armoured.

The early side of this certainly makes sense, though I'd still be inclined to 'round up' for the pre-dreadnoughts and just call them all dreadnoughts, those this would help most aren't liable to be huge naval powers to being with. Here's what I'd propose.

Dreadnoughts as you describe them splits off into Super-Dreads and Battlecruisers
New Yorks and Nevadas would fit here due to firepower and speed deficiencies.

Super Dreadnoughts ( tier 2 )
Defining features, notable improvements in speed, firepower and combat range but a fair bit more expensive
Queen E defines this class, Ise, the Pennsylvania to Tennessee classes fit here nicely

WWI Battlecruiser ( tier 2 )
Defining features, very fast, lots of firepower, poorly protected
Kongo, 'Splended cats', Hood

Washington Treaty Battleships ( tier 3 )
Defining features much improved vertical protection, mild improvements elsewhere, mild cost increase
Nelsons, Colorados, Nagatos

Washington Treaty Battlecruisers ( tier 3 )
Defining feature, notably better protection, notably expensive
Hood if it got the deck armor promised

Fast battleship 1934 ( tier 4, unifies battlecruisers and battleships into a single tree )
Defining feature, much more speed, mild improvements to firepower and armor, AA firepower can start to be powerful here without refits.
KGV, Bismark

Fast battleship 1939 ( tier 5 )
Defining feature, mild improvements in all main categories, AA firepower is much improved, somewhat more expensive.
SoDak, North Carolinas, Lion class, Iowas would be an improved variant ( as they were essentially stretched SoDaks )

Heavy Battleship 1939 ( tier 5)
Defining features, large improvements in firepower and armor, AA firepower is much improved much more expensive
Yamato ( while they didn't have the AA firepower it's hard to imagine poor AA as being a defining feature of this type of ship so much as being due to the issues with Japanese AA )

The ships that you list that I omit aren't meant to be excluded simply moved with their peers into appropriate categories, the ships mentioned are either emblematic of the type of ship or ships that are hard to categorize that have to be interpreted into one type or another ( standard battleships mainly ).
 
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The early side of this certainly makes sense, though I'd still be inclined to 'round up' for the pre-dreadnoughts and just call them all dreadnoughts, those this would help most aren't liable to be huge naval powers to being with. Here's what I'd propose.

Dreadnoughts as you describe them splits off into Super-Dreads and Battlecruisers
New Yorks and Nevadas would fit here due to firepower and speed deficiencies.

Super Dreadnoughts ( tier 2 )
Defining features, notable improvements in speed, firepower and combat range but a fair bit more expensive
Queen E defines this class, Ise, the Pennsylvania to Tennessee classes fit here nicely

WWI Battlecruiser ( tier 2 )
Defining features, very fast, lots of firepower, poorly protected
Kongo, 'Splended cats', Hood

Washington Treaty Battleships ( tier 3 )
Defining features much improved vertical protection, mild improvements elsewhere, mild cost increase
Nelsons, Colorados, Nagatos

Washington Treaty Battlecruisers ( tier 3 )
Defining feature, notably better protection, notably expensive
Hood if it got the deck armor promised

Fast battleship 1934 ( tier 4, unifies battlecruisers and battleships into a single tree )
Defining feature, much more speed, mild improvements to firepower and armor, AA firepower can start to be powerful here without refits.
KGV, Bismark

Fast battleship 1939 ( tier 5 )
Defining feature, mild improvements in all main categories, AA firepower is much improved, somewhat more expensive.
SoDak, North Carolinas, Lion class, Iowas would be an improved variant ( as they were essentially stretched SoDaks )

Heavy Battleship 1939 ( tier 5)
Defining features, large improvements in firepower and armor, AA firepower is much improved much more expensive
Yamato ( while they didn't have the AA firepower it's hard to imagine poor AA as being a defining feature of this type of ship so much as being due to the issues with Japanese AA )

The ships that you list that I omit aren't meant to be excluded simply moved with their peers into appropriate categories, the ships mentioned are either emblematic of the type of ship or ships that are hard to categorize that have to be interpreted into one type or another ( standard battleships mainly ).

Whatever the finer points, we seem to be in agreement that there needs to be at least one naval tech prior to the existing 1922.
 
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After watching the video a few times I've some questions for the devs:

1. During the SCW if a battle happened along the coast could the German navy assist with a bombardment?
2. It appears researching national focuses consumes 1pp per day. Is is a mistake?
3. Can battalions be removed from a template? I know they can be changed.
4. Support artillery is now 24 pieces. A big jump! What will normal artillery battalions now be?
5. Light tank battalions are 60 tanks. Will this be the case for medium, heavy and SP variants as well?


Overall I'm loving the way the game is turning out! Cheers!
 

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After watching the video again I have the question; Johan plays as UK, Jakob plays as Germany, does Steven play as the Soviet Union and did he deliberately do a Trotsky coup as part of his masterplan for world domination?
 

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After watching the video again I have the question; Johan plays as UK, Jakob plays as Germany, does Steven play as the Soviet Union and did he deliberately do a Trotsky coup as part of his masterplan for world domination?
I wondered that too. He did imply it but he was also doing the production of the stream. Maybe he's better at multitasking than me though!
 
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