World War Wednesday!

[Johan]

Johan built a fully motorized army - "just like that"?
I'm not sure how big that army was (aso.) but wasn't that a little bit too easy?
Shouldn't be the the construction of motorized or mechanized forces be very expensive?

28 divisions, and it used like 75% of my factories for 18 months to upgrade it from leg to motorised. Not the best decision when it is bang for bucks, but I need an army that can react quickly, as I cant have a huge army.

 

[CyberianK]

I am still a bit confused on the templates.

Normally with like Germany I'd want to have many different types of infantry units, maybe one very bare-bone one with only a few infantry and maybe an engineer and artillery for defending forts like Siegfried line and other defensive positions/terrain. Then a stronger base Inf with more AT and more support. And then a motorized and fully decked out one for the major breakthroughs. That makes me not having to spend all that oil making my army 100% motorized and lets me use different divisions for different jobs.

It seems though with the limits on templates and XP it costs to upgrade each template that might be a bad strategy and everyone goes for one template for all infantry only?

 

[Ivan_W_S]

When Jakob comes back to play, I wonder what he will make of Troy's decision to add HT to his Panzer division, when he planned on having all MT in his Panzer division. Too many cooks spoil the broth, or in this case too many generals spoil the war plan. Will be an interesting WWW next week.

And I was wondering why Johan needed to trade for his oil when he's still exporting some of them, is it because of his trade law prevents him from using the oil for his own industry?

 

[GsusNSV]

And I was wondering why Johan needed to trade for his oil when he's still exporting some of them, is it because of his trade law prevents him from using the oil for his own industry?

As I understood, the ressources are lost for trading. So you must give them away, even if nobody is buing them. Which I think is good. It limits the USA in building any kind of big Army or Navy before the war.

 

[rafan]

And I was wondering why Johan needed to trade for his oil when he's still exporting some of them, is it because of his trade law prevents him from using the oil for his own industry?

Number of resources you are musted to have on world market is bound to trade law.

Wiki link to laws

http://www.hoi4wiki.com/Ideas

 

[alkomon]

Nice! I really enjoy mr Troy´s comments!

 

[Cpack]

Similarly, the UK tank tree had a couple of eyebrow-raisers:
- 1918 – FT-17 was a French tank. The Mark V is a good British 1918 design, the Medium Mk I probably the better design for the game though.
- The ‘Vickers’ on the heavy tank tree is a bit vague – why not have the Matilda II here? The Matilda was an iconic early-war heavy tank, and while 1934 is a little early, it’s the best slot for it.
- Related, on the light tree, the Matilda (presumably Mk I) is an odd model to go there. While ‘light’, the first Matilda was still an infantry tank, slow and relatively heavily armoured. The Brits built a tonne of light tank designs during this period (more than any other nation, I’d wager), why not use one of them. Why not the Cruiser Mk I (or II, but I probably fits better)?
- For the 1941 light tank, why not the Tetrarch or the Harry Hopkins? The Valentine’s role was far closer to that of a medium.

That reapeats nearly what I posted in my tank tree proposal

 

[jamesd]

28 divisions, and it used like 75% of my factories for 18 months to upgrade it from leg to motorised. Not the best decision when it is bang for bucks, but I need an army that can react quickly, as I cant have a huge army.

Still concerning to see when the UK only had 30 divisions in Britain when the war broke out and only 5 were fully equipped. By May 1940 they had only managed to fully equip 11 divisions which was the BEF. The divisions still in Britain were very short on heavy equipment including motorisation and they had already called up many civilian vehicles to equip the BEF. The divisions in overseas garrisons were also poorly equipped at that point in time.

There were only about 900 tanks (mostly Mk VI Light) by Sep 1939 and the RAF wasn't exactly huge, so what was sacrificed to build those many thousands of trucks?

 

[dav77-b]

Still concerning to see when the UK only had 30 divisions in Britain when the war broke out and only 5 were fully equipped. By May 1940 they had only managed to fully equip 11 divisions which was the BEF. The divisions still in Britain were very short on heavy equipment including motorisation and they had already called up many civilian vehicles to equip the BEF. The divisions in overseas garrisons were also poorly equipped at that point in time.

There were only about 900 tanks (mostly Mk VI Light) by Sep 1939 and the RAF wasn't exactly huge, so what was sacrificed to build those many thousands of trucks?

Planes and Art.
Both the UK and Germany have build almost 0 planes and art so far. Johann just started to switch from trucks to planes. Johanns army.is fast but has no firepower.

 

[Daelyn75]

Troy just totally threw Jakob´s plans out of the window, Jakob wanting to wait for Panzer3 before building tanks and all. Also, Troy didn´t go for the extra research slot..

That was my issue with Troy, that 5th research slot is pretty needed, especially since Johan has it for Britain.

 

[Victor Cortez]

so what was sacrificed to build those many thousands of trucks?

Planes and Art.
Both the UK and Germany have build almost 0 planes and art so far. Johann just started to switch from trucks to planes. Johanns army.is fast but has no firepower.

This.

As for the up-to-date-only German tank "doctrine" , I don't think it's a very good idea because I don't think they can build enough later on but we will see.

 

[panzerzombie]

Johan built a fully motorized army - "just like that"?
I'm not sure how big that army was (aso.) but wasn't that a little bit too easy?
Shouldn't be the the construction of motorized or mechanized forces be very expensive?

This only changed the templates of his divisions ( without needing XP for it) if I have seen correctly, most of his divisions had no or almost no trucks, he was way behind on production as he pointed out several times ( at one point the numbers said "5000something days at current production"

edit....ooops much too late, I obviously didnt refresh the page for some hours^^

 

[alkomon]

On the British light tank research tree, the Matilda tank has wrong picture!
There is a Matilda Mk II picture, but there should be Matilda Mk I picture.

 

[Victor Cortez]

On the British research tree the Matilda tank has wrong picture!
There is Matilda Mk II picture, but there should be Matilda Mk I picture.

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Not really in my opinion.
Considering that those names and pics are purely flavour, the Matilda II was more popular and iconic than the first one.

 

[GsusNSV]

This only changed the templates of his divisions ( without needing XP for it) if I have seen correctly, most of his divisions had no or almost no trucks, he was way behind on production as he pointed out several times ( at one point the numbers said "5000something days at current production"

edit....ooops much too late, I obviously didnt refresh the page for some hours^^

This is the situation on 07.01.38. So it will take him until end of August to have his troops completly motorised.

 

[Daelyn75]

Overall, I haven't seen much tank/aircraft production. I think at the most I've seen 4 and change per week, and that with Johan's Britain. At this rate the number of airplanes and tanks for Germany will be completely inadequate to face Poland, France, and Britain at the same time. What I want to see is around 40 panzers, and 20 fighters and 40 medium bombers per week from the current date of August 1938 up to September of 1939. Also, is Germany even building trucks at all? Why is Germany still working on convoys when they are building 4 subs per year?

 

[Cpack]

Who the hell is doing this model research? :|

What is the blue Diamond at some ship classes???

 

[Shade205]

28 divisions, and it used like 75% of my factories for 18 months to upgrade it from leg to motorised. Not the best decision when it is bang for bucks, but I need an army that can react quickly, as I cant have a huge army.

Take that army and defend the French Johan!

 

[GsusNSV]

What is the blue Diamond at some ship classes???

It should mark the capital ships. In HoI 3 you got a malus in naval battle, if there weren't at least the same number of screen ships (Destroyer and Light Cruiser) as there were Capital Ships.

 

[alkomon]

Not really in my opinion.
Considering that those names and pics are purely flavour, the Matilda II was more popular and iconic than the first one.

One is light tank and second one heavy tank! So there is a difference.